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bespoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying beast has been found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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for the

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yeah man today is wednesday

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july 21 2021 203 days into the new year

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only 162 days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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seriously a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful and i would like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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the world

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all across the united states

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and tither to and fro back and forth up

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and down east and west

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north and south far and near

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this is fade to block for kjcr the game

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changer network at kgra the planets i'm

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yours jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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it's like this what an amazing week last

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this this last week duke sullivan

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glag that was an amazing show last night

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james fox james fox is

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tomorrow night is fader night

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and we've got ron keel here he's going

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to help me man the phones

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he's going to be taking your phone calls

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it's open lines all night long with ron

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it's your calls your conversations about

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an amazing night tomorrow night what a

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i may i'd even be taking this weekend

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it's cool though all right i was hoping

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uh tweetdeck have you guys switched over

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but have you checked out the new version

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it's the highlight of my life follow me

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live every single night you can also

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homo sapien sapien different groups of

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leiden university on the use of fire

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shows that 400 000 years ago

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knowledge and skills must have already

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this is some serious breaking

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but check this out just just let your

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for a second and absorb this

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a slice of material just

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is now breaking records the ultra thin

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a magnet that operates at room

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opening up avenues for the development

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memory devices and for research into

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it's a huge step for previous attempts

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a 2d magnet which have lost their

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magnetism and stability when removed

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this amazing achievement was made using

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magnets it's absolutely insane

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wow let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to

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today josh hartnett

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josh hartnett yeah i said it he's 43

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today but he was great in the black

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and he was amazing in lucky number 11.

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happy birthday josh cat stevens

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yousef islam he's still cat to me

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today is 73 years old oh

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gee original gangsta in faith no more

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the guy with the red glasses guitarist

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martin today

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is 60. that's right our dead guy's

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don not don not

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1924 to 2006 died at the age of 81.

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fife on the andy griffith show he also

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played ralph furley on three's company

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tv guide ranked him number 27 on its 50

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all time list yeah i you know what in a

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weird way

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you know you watched you know you watch

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the andy griffith show

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you know and andy taylor he's cool you

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he is he's too straight but i think we

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all wanted to be

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don knotts that's a funny dude don died

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at the age of 81 on february 24 2006

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at the cedar sinai medical center here

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in los angeles of

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lung cancer on this day in history it

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sad day i still haven't gotten over it

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happened in 2011 because nasa's final

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space shuttle mission comes to an end

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when the shuttle atlantis lands at the

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in florida i couldn't believe they

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pulled the plug in that i still can't

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believe it fader

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fact all right here we go fader fact

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the human body has roughly

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cells that's what you got 50 to 75

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and half of them are red blood cells

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bet you didn't know that that's your

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fader fact i you know i

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you know what's really funny i have got

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i've always got a dozen fader facts

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in in ready to go they're here in a list

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right they're right in front of me right

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and i'm always fact-finding

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don't you want to know my list for the

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next two weeks

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it's right here man my next one is good

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i can't wait for tomorrow night it

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involves

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sweden all right

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tonight very special guest james fox is

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back

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and tonight james is going to take his

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ufo victory

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lap that's right well deserved too so

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stand by

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james will be with us at the bottom of

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the hour and then tomorrow night

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ron keel ron keel

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what what a cool guy i mean that's

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that's it a great singer great front man

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great songwriter he he's got it all

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dialed

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great performer there's there's no

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question about all of that

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but ron keel is one of us he's a fader

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not

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he gets it and he studies

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this huge fan of the show and and all of

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that

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but but he's out there getting it done

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and uh

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it's gonna be great so tomorrow night

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he's gonna be manning the phones with me

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and there's another part to this

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anything that you would ask me ask ron

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yeah well except for what it's like to

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to be the front man of a band

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that's that's a question for ron but uh

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yeah

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ron can go there and we're going to do

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all of that tomorrow night

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yeah ufos conspiracy and time travel and

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music and guitars we're going to do it

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all tomorrow night with ron keel

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so stand by for that all right so

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talking about john greenwald at the top

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of the show let me hit this

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check all of it out

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and all of the links and everything are

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over at jimmychurchradio.com

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all right well now okay

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a story uh this report i should say the

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journalism excellence of john greenwald

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and and i say this so much but in john's

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case it just cannot be measured and his

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importance to this community

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uh for the last 25 years since he

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launched the black vault

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and everything that he has done in his

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books and and all of that

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it's just just an amazing contribution

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to the world of ufos for all of us um

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and so much more but where we are today

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with the uap

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task force and this report and

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everything that has been revealed

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and the breaking headlines over the last

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three years

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uh john has been the instigator

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for much of it we have a lot to thank

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this is a holy crap moment and

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this was published uh on the black vault

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earlier today july 21 2021

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the headline for the article

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is one that i wouldn't have chosen but

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i'm not john

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and don't let the headline

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spell out the article like

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you know you don't need to read the

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article sometimes when you just read the

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headline right well

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the headline reads uap task force

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initiated contact with

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nasa to brief them on ufos

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but they won't say why okay so that's

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that's the headline to the article and

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that's

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that that right there is worth the price

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of admission

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right there but that's not really what's

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going on

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article is much

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deeper and much more exclus explosive

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than that

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so this is the article

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i am going to read it to you now word

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for word

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with john's permission and uh

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here it is now listen to everything

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on august 4th 2020

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the department of defense announced the

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establishment of the uap

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task force its mission according to the

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press release

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was to improve its understanding of

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and gain insight into the nature

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and origins of unidentified aerial

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phenomenon

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uaps the mission of the task force is to

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detect

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analyze and catalog uaps that could

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potentially pose a threat to u.s

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national security end quote the dod

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noted that incursions within training

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ranges or designated airspace

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would be the primary focus okay

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land-based and since its creation

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they have conducted classified briefings

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on the topic for the white house

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the house permanent select committee on

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intelligence

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the subcommittee on counter-terrorism

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counter-intelligence

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counter-proliferation and others

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now a new document sheds light on what

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else they

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they were doing behind the scenes

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in the freedom of information act foia

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request

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filed by the black vault it was revealed

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by the response that in the first month

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after the establishment of the uap task

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force

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they initiated contact with nasa

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and requested that they brief them

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on uaps in their secure

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briefing setting but the exact reason

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why

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remains unknown quote

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during the course of its work the uaptf

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has reached out to organizations across

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dod

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the intelligence community and the u.s

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government end quote

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pentagon spokesperson susan gao said in

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an emailed statement to the black

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vault quote for security reasons

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we will not detail the contributions of

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specific

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organizations to the uap tf's work

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nor the areas discussed with every

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organization

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as part of the uaptf's investigations

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end quote gao

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who has largely been the voice for most

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uap related comments given on behalf of

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the us government

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issued this statement to the black vault

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after coordinating with nasa

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to formulate a response

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her word speaks on behalf of both

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agencies

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regarding the matter that's a holy crap

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moment right there

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this newly found discovery comes from

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documents attained

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via the foia foia case

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case number 21hqf00507

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asking for emails sent to or from nasa

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associate administrator dr thomas

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zurbukin which contained keyword phrases

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such as unidentified aerial or

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unidentified flying etc it was motivated

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by a june 2nd 2021 press conference

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where a nasa administrator bill nelson

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and zuberkin spoke about the phenomena

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the case yielded a small stack of

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records

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but one gave an important revelation not

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yet known to the general public

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on september 13 2020

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then acting associate administrator for

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the office of international

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and interagency relations mike gold

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sent a weekly update email

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to a list of recipients which included

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zuberkin

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and nasa administrator jim bridenstine

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and many others within the update gold

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talks

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about a briefing he would be attending

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at the request of the uap task force

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end quote the document names all those

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who would be attending the briefing via

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a secure video teleconference

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that meeting included international

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space station iss program manager

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joe montelbano that's right

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director of the export control and

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interagency liaison division margaret

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kiefer

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former associate administrator for

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legislative affairs

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suzanne gillen and gold

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prior to working with nasa are you ready

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are you sitting down prior to

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working with nasa gold worked

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for bigelow aerospace

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that's right although potentially just a

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coincidence

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gold worked for bigelow aerospace from

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february

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of 2003 through april

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of 2016.

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this would put him within bigelow

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aerospace as the director

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of dc operations and business growth

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when they were operating the bigelow

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aerospace advanced

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space studies otherwise known as bass

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that subsidiary allegedly investigating

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paranormal events and ufo sightings

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for the defense intelligence agency

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this program was called the advanced

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aerospace weapons systems

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applications program otherwise known as

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think about everything that john

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think about that now why

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why the iss the international space

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station

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i just said quoting

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john from this article at the front of

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it

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that the uap task force was looking at

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ground events it spelled it out it's in

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their own mission statement

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now they're dealing with nasa

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nasa and even more specifically

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the international space station and gold

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worked for bigelow for

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bass for awesome for 12 years

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until 2016

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this circle of people

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think about that we all know about

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bigelow and his interest

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in ufos and going and et in contact

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not only with skinwalker but go back to

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his

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60 minutes interview a few years ago

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is e.t here he said of course

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of course remember that

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now we're dealing with with nasa

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and the uap task force and the iss

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and who is at the center of all of this

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one more time

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there's more to come in in all of this

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now

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i had stated in twitter

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earlier today i had said this

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is potentially i think my words were

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and i'll go back and and let me see how

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i put this

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i said john greenwald has just broke

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what may be the story of the year

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and that is saying a lot this is huge

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and if you go and you read uh

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the headline uh from this

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and you try to do something from the

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headline uap task force initiate a

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contact with nasa to brief them on ufos

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but they won't say why

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and you don't go and read the article

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right this is insanity i i think it's

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great

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i think it's amazing and this

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is potentially the biggest story of

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the year amongst everything

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that has just gone down i mean this is

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incredible

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all right i am your host jimmy church i

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want everybody to go read the article

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i've got it up in twitter you can go and

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click and head straight over you've got

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to read it all

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it's right there and this is the other

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thing that john does

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in all of his reporting all of the

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documents

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are linked everything is there

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everything is searchable

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and readable and i am just reading

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the text a partial text from the

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article this is fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church and tonight

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you know what i called him james call of

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james fox earlier today i said man

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you got to read this article what's it

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about

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told him what

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it's like that tonight james fox is here

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to take his ufo

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00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:07,039
victory lap it's so well deserved and

588
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:08,640
tomorrow night ron keel is here for

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fader night

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he's going to be here manning the phones

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with me taking your calls

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all night long that's right and then

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00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,720
it's the weekend

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then on monday right here on fade to

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black

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travis walton i'm your host jimmy church

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on the game changer network and ktra

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the planet i'll be right back with james

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight james fox

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is with us tomorrow night ron keel he's

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gonna help me man the phones here and

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take your phone calls online but tonight

710
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,879
it's about james fox james returns for

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his ufo victory lap well deserved

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because his films

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are some of the most respected in the

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world of ufology

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00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,240
and the phenomenon broke new ground

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leading up to the uap task force report

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tonight we're going to discuss his

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00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,240
thoughts on everything in the world of

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ufos and uaps

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and what this director is working on

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00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:55,040
next james of course was born in england

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raised in new york in california began

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00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,839
his journalism career early in his life

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as an assistant to his father writer

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00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,040
charles fox

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00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,200
together they traveled on many magazine

727
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,119
assignments interviewing such notables

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00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:09,520
as stephen hawking and race car legend

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00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,160
dan gurney for you know like rolling

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00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:13,920
stone car and driver and sports

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00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,880
illustrated

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00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,560
he finished and sold his first

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00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:18,880
documentary to discovery by the time he

734
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,920
was just 28 years old wait a minute

735
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:24,000
that math doesn't add up james is like

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00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,440
86 years old

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00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:26,800
i'm gonna ask him about this wait a

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00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:28,560
minute hold on but

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00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,960
he has completed and distributed tv

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00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,320
projects for sci-fi

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00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,320
the learning channel national geographic

742
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:36,240
and of course history channel and has

743
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:38,560
made frequent appearances on larry king

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00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,440
live

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00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,839
all of those quite historical nightline

746
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:44,160
dateline and anderson cooper amongst

747
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:45,839
others his documentaries

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00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,320
out of the blue my favorite i know what

749
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:50,160
i saw my second favorite and of course

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00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:51,119
my favorite

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00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:52,720
the phenomenon are some of the most

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00:35:57,630 --> 00:35:55,599
respected films on the ufo subject

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00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:57,640
his website is right there the

754
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:59,200
phenomenonfilm.com i would like to

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00:36:01,270 --> 00:36:00,480
welcome back to fade to black the one

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00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:01,280
and only

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00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:04,960
james fox james what's cracking

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00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:08,160
what i am so impressed with your

759
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:11,119
delivery of that intro i mean it's like

760
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,800
i could just keep on listening to that

761
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,800
all night yeah you say that every time

762
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:17,280
you're on the show

763
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,599
your voice just adds a level of gravitas

764
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:21,359
to what i do that it just doesn't

765
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:24,320
you know it's uh i'm impressed oh man

766
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,119
i'm amused

767
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:27,119
i'm impressed i'm impressed i'm

768
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,640
impressed and uh

769
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,480
i want to let everybody know that uh

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00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:31,680
james is

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00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,720
uh uh coming to us from an undisclosed

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00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:35,920
location

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00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,839
he's at spielberg's house vacationing in

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00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,160
hyannisport and

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00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,359
uh what's it you know i

776
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:46,400
i gotta ask james what what's it like to

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be

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00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:50,720
you know you know the badass director

779
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:54,079
walking around knowing that your

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00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:57,280
films have not only meant what they've

781
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:57,920
meant

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00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:01,040
but uh they've been so successful and so

783
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:02,160
respected

784
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,359
but the phenomenon man you know and

785
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,520
it was so talked about still talked

786
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,200
about still watched

787
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:12,240
what what just give me uh let me live

788
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:13,920
vicariously through you

789
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:16,640
you know what what is that like are you

790
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,280
are you at

791
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:20,640
rockstar status now

792
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:23,680
no you know it's funny actually because

793
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,800
you're so caught up in the process of it

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00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:27,680
all

795
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,040
it's kind of a whirlwind and

796
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,280
you don't really have time to reflect on

797
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:34,720
what's actually happening

798
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,760
if that makes sense uh up until fairly

799
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,119
recently

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00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:41,200
i think i remembered my father saying to

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00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,119
me many times actually

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00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,560
because i was always disappointed with

803
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,040
everything i'd done you know it just was

804
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:49,440
didn't quite meet the mark

805
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:52,240
and he said to me you know son um and he

806
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,720
was

807
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:55,200
one of my biggest skeptics um he died

808
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,640
being one of my biggest supporters but

809
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,760
he said son you know

810
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:59,920
you only need to to knock it out of the

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park once

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and i said what do you mean dad he's

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like you know with what

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you do you only need to really knock it

815
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out of the park once

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00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,480
kind of set yourself up and and i i

817
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,000
don't know i guess i didn't quite

818
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,359
understand what he meant and and and

819
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,599
i'd say about two months ago i i heard

820
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,280
his voice in my head and

821
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,720
i thought you know dad i think i might

822
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,280
have knocked it out of the park

823
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,880
maybe this is what you were talking

824
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:26,560
about you know and but

825
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,079
but it's weird it's like the whole

826
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,320
thing's kind of surreal and

827
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and um you know sometimes you kind of

828
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:34,079
forget and because the film sort of

829
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,599
develops a life of its own

830
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:38,640
it gets out there and and gets picked up

831
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:39,599
and tweeted about

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00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,720
and um and uh

833
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,720
you know it is an interesting journey it

834
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,079
was it it was a

835
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:48,160
incredibly tumultuous journey at times i

836
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,760
mean my god

837
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,599
i mean you know it was just getting the

838
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,119
film done and then

839
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:55,440
of course the ink dried on the

840
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:56,400
theatrical

841
00:39:01,109 --> 00:39:00,240
sooner than that happened that coveted

842
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,119
hit

843
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,280
that we had to pivot around that whole

844
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:05,359
obstacle nightmare right

845
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:08,880
well you know constantly yeah sorry

846
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,760
if you uh i just i just stepped on

847
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:12,960
spielberg

848
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:16,640
just like that man i feel guilty

849
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:19,680
but but james um if

850
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:23,040
if we go back to

851
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,359
the excitement of our phone calls

852
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,000
a year year and a half ago and going

853
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,560
through the process of the film and

854
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:34,720
and you were sending me clips and you

855
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:35,760
were asking me

856
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,119
my comments and your excitement right

857
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:41,520
jimmy jimmy this this is the i'm telling

858
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,640
you you know and

859
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,960
and i was i was watching it get

860
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:46,160
developed

861
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,720
and then uh we

862
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:52,960
how do i i i don't want to disclose a

863
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:53,839
whole lot

864
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:56,960
here but the the the release date

865
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:00,240
we've got the the movie theater we're

866
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,560
dude we've got a national theater

867
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:03,920
release and

868
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:07,440
and the absolute excitement of it all

869
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,640
and it took a worldwide pandemic to

870
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,319
to take the wind out of your sails and

871
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,920
deflate the balloon and

872
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,839
and that was completely out of your

873
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,280
control

874
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,240
how do you go from the adrenaline rush

875
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:22,000
of the excitement of you know signed

876
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:24,160
contracts right this is actually really

877
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,280
happening man right to all of a sudden

878
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,160
the rug being pulled out from under you

879
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:33,119
um the film continued on to huge success

880
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,240
we know that

881
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,520
but the stuff that you deserved right

882
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:40,240
the premier the red carpet and and all

883
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:41,599
of that

884
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,880
people have no idea how close we came to

885
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,000
a full

886
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,800
complete crash and burn i mean it was it

887
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:49,760
was so

888
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:52,560
precarious at one point um your

889
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:54,319
audience's eyes would glaze over if i

890
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:56,000
went into great detail but

891
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,839
but you know we pivoted we decided to

892
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,440
pivot from

893
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,359
we had to we had no choice we you know

894
00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,040
from a theatrical release which was

895
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:05,760
heartbreaking because i hired one of the

896
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,160
best

897
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:08,480
you know buddha jones uh to do the

898
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:09,440
trailer

899
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,560
um uh george knapp had a connection i

900
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:14,720
think he went to college with the guy

901
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:17,760
john long who was one of the owners

902
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:21,200
of of the company and we spent

903
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,599
i mean weeks weeks weeks making a

904
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,359
a trailer that was going to be shown in

905
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,599
theaters i mean it was a big deal

906
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:31,200
a really big deal and then of course

907
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,200
people were saying you know this is my

908
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,640
opportunity that i've been waiting for

909
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:36,240
my sister was crying she was hugging me

910
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,760
and she's like oh my god i've

911
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,280
watched you your whole life you've been

912
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,359
wanting this this is your dream and

913
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:43,440
i'm so happy for you you know we're like

914
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,040
hugging and crying and

915
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,560
she'd known what i'd been through to get

916
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,640
to that point i mean my lord i tried for

917
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:49,760
27 years

918
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,480
and then someone's like oh you got to

919
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,400
have it you know you got to get a 5.1

920
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:56,000
dolby surround mix if you're going to be

921
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:56,960
in theaters

922
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,560
got to have good sound and i was like

923
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:59,920
well you know my buddy's been doing the

924
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,640
mix for

925
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,160
on the last you know five films i've

926
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,839
made and he's like no no no no

927
00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:05,920
this is a whole nother level buddy you

928
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:07,760
need to go into a sound engineer so

929
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:08,240
anyway

930
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,640
i connected with a guy who was works

931
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,560
with james cameron in los angeles at

932
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,240
juniper studios

933
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,000
and uh he took a look at the film he's

934
00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:18,480
like well normally i charge 100 grand

935
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:22,400
and i was like 100 grand jesus

936
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:26,000
you're always you know broke at the end

937
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:27,200
of a prolonged

938
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,880
you know multi-year production even

939
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:30,240
though some of my

940
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,839
supporters not all of them but some of

941
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,680
them had deep pockets you can't just

942
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:35,040
keep going back to the well and it was

943
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,960
like constantly new things would happen

944
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,800
and you know surprises and extra

945
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:40,079
expenditures and

946
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,480
so the last time i'd gone to the well

947
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:43,920
they were like that's it you're

948
00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:45,520
you're it's done we're not you're not

949
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,800
getting any more so i was going to the

950
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,480
bank and like borrowing money and taking

951
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,480
out a loan and getting extension on my

952
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:53,200
credit cards just to pay for the for the

953
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:54,880
sound design mix it was like

954
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,160
50 000 i mean it's like jesus

955
00:43:01,829 --> 00:42:59,839
i've never in my life paid that for a

956
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,839
sound mix but apparently it's what i had

957
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,880
to do to be in

958
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,480
theaters and they said your film will

959
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:06,480
succeed at a whole new level

960
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,760
people will be walking out of the

961
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:09,440
theater not knowing what it was they

962
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:10,640
hated about your movie

963
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,920
if you don't have your sound right

964
00:43:15,270 --> 00:43:13,760
that's right so it was that important

965
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:15,280
everybody told me it's that important

966
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:17,440
man you have to do it so anyway so you

967
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:17,920
know

968
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,680
movie trailer all set up because you're

969
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:23,280
gonna be playing in theaters it was so

970
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:24,240
exciting and then

971
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:25,920
all of it just flushed down the toilet

972
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,520
it was like oh my god

973
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,440
you got and i mean i remember my sister

974
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,800
called me and she's like because

975
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,640
we're really close i have two sisters

976
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,319
she called you she's like

977
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,920
i can't believe it took a global

978
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:40,960
pandemic to stop you

979
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:43,680
i mean i bought a news james i bought a

980
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:44,160
new

981
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,560
suit i got my haircut

982
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,880
you know you don't think i was

983
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,480
devastated think again but

984
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,319
what are you gonna do right now my dad

985
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,599
used to say to me

986
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,680
son play the game on the board not the

987
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,200
one in your head

988
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:01,680
the game on the board was this is it i

989
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,720
gotta let it go

990
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,880
and so we had to pivot you know uh there

991
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:06,800
was a guy named dan farrow got involved

992
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:07,359
and

993
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,040
he was like you know a lot of people are

994
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,960
are going straight to streaming

995
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:12,720
you know this is a nightmare scenario

996
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:13,839
for a lot of people you're not in this

997
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,640
alone there are

998
00:44:17,829 --> 00:44:16,000
a lot of other people that have spent a

999
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:17,839
lot of money a lot of time and all of a

1000
00:44:20,069 --> 00:44:19,119
sudden they're confronted with the same

1001
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,079
nightmare

1002
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,720
and so we went to pivot and had a we're

1003
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:24,160
going to have a release with netflix and

1004
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,880
then

1005
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,720
uh there were some mistakes made just

1006
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,880
under the cloud of covet whatever

1007
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,200
and that sale couldn't go through either

1008
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,960
and that was a nightmare and that went

1009
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,400
on for weeks and weeks and weeks and

1010
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:36,319
just accumulated nothing but debt with

1011
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:37,040
lawyers

1012
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,800
yeah you know you just i i spoke with

1013
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,720
dan last week

1014
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,800
um man you're running with the heavy

1015
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,720
hitters man

1016
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:49,440
wow so most people don't let's don't get

1017
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:50,240
into who he

1018
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:53,839
is but i know who he is

1019
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,160
yeah wow yeah well you know anyway

1020
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,000
but my point is i was like just trying

1021
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:02,160
to get this movie out to the world was

1022
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,200
like

1023
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,200
jesus how many more obstacles gonna be

1024
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,359
thrown across my path like

1025
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:10,240
oh my lord it was it was insane and i

1026
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,200
remember

1027
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:14,240
i i think i revealed some of the

1028
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,240
um some of the frustrations i i had had

1029
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:20,000
publicly but it was almost a little

1030
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,599
embarrassing to admit that i was in a

1031
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,520
ball crying for three days

1032
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,200
i'd reached my breaking point which i

1033
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:26,560
have a i'm you know

1034
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:29,440
i don't break easy man i i'm really got

1035
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,560
a lot of stamina

1036
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:33,920
and i focus and and i push hard but i

1037
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,040
i i broke i definitely broke and

1038
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,720
you know i was in debt over a million

1039
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,800
dollars and there was so much

1040
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,560
uh i felt like i was kind of sitting at

1041
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:44,160
the poker table and i pushed all in on

1042
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:44,960
one bet

1043
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,560
and lost and um exactly and a momentary

1044
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,160
like loss of like all right so we did

1045
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,920
everything and you know i got a mortgage

1046
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,599
and a family and it was just it was kind

1047
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,760
of you know put my family through a lot

1048
00:45:59,510 --> 00:45:58,319
pretty terrifying like honestly and i

1049
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,520
remember thinking

1050
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:01,599
my god if this is what it takes to

1051
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:02,640
succeed

1052
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:06,000
in life in this industry

1053
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,119
wow no wonder why there are so few

1054
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:11,440
people that succeed at it because it's

1055
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:15,040
really hard now

1056
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,640
and and so um i i want to move on but

1057
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:19,280
there is an

1058
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:22,640
ending no no no there's an ending to all

1059
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:23,200
of this

1060
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,400
of course the film releases and then

1061
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:29,440
boom right yeah wow

1062
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:33,520
thank god thank god

1063
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,760
jesus thank god i don't know what i

1064
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,440
would have done otherwise

1065
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:39,280
so that's the ending of the story thank

1066
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,910
oh my lordy there's another yeah because

1067
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,520
we had a very narrow window i don't know

1068
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:51,359
how much i can actually discuss because

1069
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,720
of legal stuff but

1070
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:55,200
but i had a very narrow winter window to

1071
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,000
take advantage

1072
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:58,240
of the tvod which is transactional

1073
00:47:03,829 --> 00:46:59,680
download google

1074
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,839
play amazon itunes vimeo

1075
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,319
all these platforms that you pay to you

1076
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,040
pay to play people can rent it or buy it

1077
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,520
um speaking of which if you know one of

1078
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:13,040
the things people get really

1079
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,880
frustrated with me with is they find out

1080
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:16,480
later that if you do

1081
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,800
buy the film on one of those platforms

1082
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,720
vimeo and itunes sells it for the same

1083
00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:22,240
amount as everybody else but they offer

1084
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,440
three hours of bonus

1085
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:24,720
bonus material people were like why

1086
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,440
didn't you tell me it's like well i

1087
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:29,040
i thought that all the platforms offered

1088
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,640
the bonus material and

1089
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:33,040
and they don't it's just vimeo and

1090
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:34,079
itunes

1091
00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:35,440
so anyway i'll get that one out of the

1092
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:37,440
way but but yeah it was it was

1093
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,800
quite a journey and you know getting

1094
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,280
caught up in in in that whole process

1095
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:43,119
it's just a whirlwind you know and then

1096
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:45,280
then we had all hands on deck to release

1097
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,720
it on t-mod

1098
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,760
and uh you know it's just i was a

1099
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,160
full-time job just doing the pr and the

1100
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:54,240
uh talk you know shows and radio and

1101
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:55,599
podcasts and

1102
00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:58,400
um lord that was yeah you know and this

1103
00:48:05,190 --> 00:47:59,520
is uh

1104
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:05,200
we don't see often

1105
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,240
but i was thoroughly enjoying it being a

1106
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,920
you know a member of hollywood and a

1107
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:10,640
resident

1108
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,480
and and so forth is uh variety

1109
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:17,520
you know the hollywood reporter and

1110
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:20,960
and constantly seeing these

1111
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:24,000
uh stories on you

1112
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:27,119
and and distribution and film deals and

1113
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,079
and new projects and but but about the

1114
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,760
ufo subject

1115
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,359
and that that doesn't happen in the

1116
00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,280
hollywood reporter uh

1117
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:38,400
every day yeah uh and in a variety

1118
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,839
but but there you were and as a director

1119
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,000
you know you're you're in a genre that

1120
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,720
doesn't get this kind of recognition

1121
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,880
what does it feel i mean all directors

1122
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:50,559
right actors they want their

1123
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,480
you know they want to be in variety they

1124
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:54,480
want to be in the hollywood reporter

1125
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,760
yeah you the ufo right

1126
00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:00,000
yeah no it was really yeah i mean but i

1127
00:49:03,270 --> 00:49:01,520
i've been you know this is my fourth in

1128
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:03,280
that film on the topic and i've you know

1129
00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,599
done

1130
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:06,079
stupid tv shows which no one to blame

1131
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,960
but myself for

1132
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:09,200
but hopefully i had a lot to make up

1133
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:10,880
with with the phenomenon right i had to

1134
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:11,440
really

1135
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,920
outdo myself to kind of make up for all

1136
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:15,119
the

1137
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,559
silly stuff that i did with with

1138
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:18,880
national geographic but no it's been

1139
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:21,119
a breath of fresh air to see mainstream

1140
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,319
you know it's been my goal

1141
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,319
since i started doing this in the mid

1142
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,640
90s to create a body of work that could

1143
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:28,559
penetrate a much broader more mainstream

1144
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,280
audience

1145
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:32,000
and that has been my sole objective i've

1146
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,040
been criticized because i don't include

1147
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:37,040
some of the more out there aspects of

1148
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:38,480
the phenomenon but

1149
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:40,400
i've always said if you go back and

1150
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,680
listen to any interview i've done the

1151
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,119
last 20 plus years

1152
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,240
i say i'm doing this in baby steps and

1153
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,319
i'm

1154
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,440
slowly introducing certain aspects of

1155
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:53,040
the phenomenon in the mainstream and

1156
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:53,680
trying to

1157
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:56,880
transcend into that genre

1158
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,280
away from not that i want to get away

1159
00:50:01,829 --> 00:50:00,640
from the ufo community that's not the

1160
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:01,839
case at all but

1161
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,440
we're already kind of in the know and we

1162
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,000
need to get this over into mainstream

1163
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,119
and so i would not

1164
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:12,319
push the envelope too far just trying to

1165
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,760
establish that there's

1166
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:16,240
something truly inexplicable happening

1167
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:17,680
and this is the first film i've ever

1168
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:18,640
done where i

1169
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:20,240
deal with close encounters of the third

1170
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:22,240
kind i mean that's kind of a big deal

1171
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,680
especially with some of the high-level

1172
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:25,440
government officials that i have in

1173
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,000
there

1174
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:28,240
like that was kind of scary you know

1175
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:29,599
thinking that they would look at it and

1176
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,160
go

1177
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,680
oh pulled me out i don't want to be

1178
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,960
associated with little beans

1179
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:33,760
communicating

1180
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:36,480
telepathically with kids in africa that

1181
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,280
was

1182
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:40,559
mind the whole time well

1183
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:43,200
there's another twist to this and i hope

1184
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,319
you appreciate

1185
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,440
my thought process but there is a

1186
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:50,640
certain challenge in life

1187
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,680
to take something like ufos into the

1188
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,040
mainstream

1189
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:57,440
and you never quite get there so you

1190
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:58,319
work at it

1191
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,800
you know that's what you're driven by

1192
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:02,880
but now you've done that

1193
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:05,920
right is does that take some of your

1194
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,200
bliss out of life

1195
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:09,280
or do you have to elevate this to

1196
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:16,069
um that's a really good question and and

1197
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:17,280
i was actually just

1198
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:20,079
just thinking that the other day because

1199
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,440
i was asking myself

1200
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,119
kind of quietly i was sipping on a

1201
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:25,680
whiskey on the lake and i'm thinking

1202
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,280
did i did i just accomplish my 27-year

1203
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:30,960
goal

1204
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:35,040
i always feel a little dissatisfied i

1205
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,599
don't

1206
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,359
i'm still hungry you know what i mean

1207
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:39,440
like i feel like

1208
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:42,079
i haven't it's not mission accomplished

1209
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:42,480
yet

1210
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,079
it's getting a lot closer and i feel

1211
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:47,920
like i've got a lot more eyeballs on

1212
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,319
what i'm doing now which i haven't had

1213
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:52,880
that before and that's both a good thing

1214
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,160
and it's also a little scary because

1215
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:57,359
you're only as good as your last film

1216
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,520
and so that puts the pressure on i want

1217
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:01,119
to produce this next piece in a much

1218
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,559
more timely fashion

1219
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,240
it's one case and it's a fascinating

1220
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,640
case um and i've been there filming

1221
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:07,920
three times already i'm going there

1222
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:10,960
again in a month um with a pretty

1223
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,640
amazing crew um and and uh some which

1224
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,559
i can't reveal to the general public yet

1225
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:19,440
but it will be exciting i can assure you

1226
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,599
um and i also have a budget where i can

1227
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:22,640
like

1228
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,880
acquire what needs to be acquired in a

1229
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,240
foreign country

1230
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:28,079
um so i'm very excited about that aspect

1231
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:29,440
of it as well because

1232
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,720
i've been there i've met with the

1233
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:32,079
military i've met with some of the

1234
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:33,119
witnesses

1235
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,559
i know what's needed to get uh

1236
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,480
you know get access to certain things

1237
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:40,559
that i couldn't afford to have access to

1238
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,920
before well that's all exciting hold on

1239
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:45,839
hold on you can't be that evasive here

1240
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,390
first off it's me james uh number one

1241
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:55,200
but but number two uh this announcement

1242
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:55,680
was

1243
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:59,040
in variety and and this deal

1244
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,800
and what the subject was and what the

1245
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,240
country was

1246
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,760
so it's out there in the public you can

1247
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,680
go ahead and say it the audience would

1248
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:07,440
love to know

1249
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,640
oh yeah no it's well i'm doing i'm doing

1250
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,559
a piece on an alleged crash

1251
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:15,680
that involves beans it's uh commonly

1252
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:17,520
referred to as the virginia

1253
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,760
incident it took place in virginia

1254
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:22,000
brazil in 1996

1255
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:26,160
and it involved a a craft

1256
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,000
that we have witnesses that saw it crash

1257
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,000
we have with a new witness

1258
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,119
that um we'll be meeting with it's going

1259
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:35,280
to take us to the actual crash site

1260
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:38,000
that came upon the crash site witnesses

1261
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:38,800
that that

1262
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:41,920
both knew and some old uh both military

1263
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,800
and civilian

1264
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:44,960
that saw the beans alive i know it

1265
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,480
sounds crazy but it's

1266
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,480
i can assure you it's extremely credible

1267
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,720
reports from extremely credible people

1268
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:52,559
that i've personally met with

1269
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,359
um i interviewed a couple of generals uh

1270
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:57,920
brazilian generals in an air force and a

1271
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,000
army general um and uh

1272
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,280
we're going there for a fourth time

1273
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,440
um at the end of august i'll be gone a

1274
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:08,880
full month so i'll be

1275
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,200
living in brazil in the in and around

1276
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:12,880
the area for a full month

1277
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,160
and i'll be going there with enough

1278
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:16,480
resources that you know to

1279
00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,280
it's crazy actually it's because we got

1280
00:54:22,630 --> 00:54:20,960
written up all across brazil

1281
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,640
that we were recovering i was like what

1282
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:24,480
the hell no secret portuguese

1283
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:27,040
right no i know it's like everybody the

1284
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,559
whole country knows we're coming

1285
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:30,319
i'm sure the president probably knows

1286
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:32,160
it's like this film crew is coming to

1287
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,880
like

1288
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:35,119
shed light on uh you know one of the

1289
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:36,240
biggest stories

1290
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:39,280
probably in brazilian ufo history

1291
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:43,119
or yeah you know um when that story

1292
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:47,040
broke in 1996 and and i started to i

1293
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,000
didn't believe it by the way

1294
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,040
yeah it was too it was too incredible

1295
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,040
um nope i didn't believe it i did not

1296
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,280
believe it i was like no way

1297
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:58,160
you know you've got it it's the full-on

1298
00:55:03,990 --> 00:54:58,960
everything

1299
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,000
military the government the cover-up

1300
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:07,040
crash retrieval alien bodies alien live

1301
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:10,480
alien uh

1302
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,440
the village the town um you've got a

1303
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,640
nice beach

1304
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:17,520
right i mean it's just like it's got

1305
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,200
everything

1306
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,920
i have spoken with people both on and

1307
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:22,960
off the record

1308
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:24,799
the level of confirmation that i got

1309
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,440
from an air force general

1310
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:29,359
you know he passed after i interviewed

1311
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,520
him he died a couple years later

1312
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,920
and i was thinking to myself i was

1313
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,359
talking

1314
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,440
to some of the researchers the brazilian

1315
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:39,119
ufo researchers that were with me at the

1316
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:40,559
time i interviewed this gentleman

1317
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,799
and you know what i'm just going to say

1318
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,400
it because he's dead now

1319
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:46,240
and i have him on camera but i don't

1320
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,319
have this part of it on camera but i'll

1321
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:50,880
share this with your audience

1322
00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:54,640
because he's gone now and and um

1323
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,720
did the interview he was you know he

1324
00:56:01,270 --> 00:55:58,240
sort of danced around the whole

1325
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:01,280
virginia stuff you know he didn't deny

1326
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,520
or

1327
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,119
he didn't what is that he neither

1328
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,359
confirmed nor deny

1329
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,520
he just really didn't want to go in into

1330
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,880
it too much but he confirmed the

1331
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,559
existence of ufos and

1332
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,119
all these other amazing things excuse me

1333
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,720
and

1334
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:17,520
when i walked into the car he had a

1335
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:18,880
driver

1336
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,400
waiting for him i was with

1337
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:25,119
marco layal he's a ufo researcher in

1338
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,160
brazil

1339
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,480
he was my translator and i said there

1340
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,720
are no cameras rolling there's no audio

1341
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:32,640
clips rolling

1342
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,839
i promise you you got my word i

1343
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,520
and as he got into his car with his

1344
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:39,200
driver ready to take him off this was an

1345
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:40,240
air force general

1346
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,599
jose carlos poretta i said

1347
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:45,599
tell me about virginia tell me about

1348
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:46,799
virginia

1349
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:50,160
and he looked at me he stopped as he was

1350
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,200
getting in the car

1351
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,880
and he said it happened and then he

1352
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,559
closed the door and off they drove i was

1353
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:56,480
like oh my god

1354
00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:59,119
that was a level of confirmation that i

1355
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:00,960
it's one of those things where

1356
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,599
you could never translate that

1357
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:05,599
experience or that level of confirmation

1358
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:08,960
in a film or a doc but that

1359
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,839
drives you it motivates you it keeps you

1360
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:13,760
going because

1361
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:16,880
he's not selling that story he's not

1362
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,920
willing to say that publicly but

1363
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:21,599
to look me in the eye and say it

1364
00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,359
happened and then just get in the car

1365
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:25,119
and drive off it was almost like a scene

1366
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,400
out of a movie you know

1367
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:28,400
and i would have taken i would not have

1368
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:30,160
shared that with your audience had i

1369
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:32,720
had he not passed in fact i talked about

1370
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:33,599
it with the

1371
00:57:39,750 --> 00:57:37,280
researcher marco and um

1372
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:39,760
he's like you know i think we can talk

1373
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:40,640
about it

1374
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,200
now and he's gone and um

1375
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,760
and i also thought god what a great

1376
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,839
potential title the other day i was like

1377
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,079
virginia it happened would that be a

1378
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,559
weird title i don't know

1379
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:57,040
the meaning behind it is kind of cool so

1380
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,839
i don't know

1381
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:59,839
you know what's really you know what's

1382
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:01,440
really funny

1383
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:04,799
um uh uh

1384
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:08,559
john carter on mars

1385
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,760
his name is virginia do you remember

1386
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:13,599
that

1387
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,720
go watch oh no i did not no go watch

1388
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:18,480
john carter on mars

1389
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:21,760
and so he tells them uh

1390
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:24,799
you know the aliens on mars he says he's

1391
00:58:31,390 --> 00:58:28,400
he's john mars from virginia right

1392
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:31,400
and and that was it so after that he was

1393
00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:34,079
virginia

1394
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,200
oh my god through the whole movie

1395
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:39,440
it sounds because it's a modern day

1396
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:40,319
roswell

1397
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:44,480
happened in 1996 so most of the

1398
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,319
witnesses are still alive

1399
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,640
i've met with the sister of the military

1400
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:50,640
officer marco teresa who handled

1401
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the the the the body the the alive

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00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:53,839
creature

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00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,920
right uh who later died of a sort of

1404
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,920
systematic immune system failure

1405
00:59:03,190 --> 00:58:59,359
uh we're interviewing the doctor who

1406
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:03,200
worked on him the sister the family like

1407
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:05,200
you know a number of military witnesses

1408
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:06,400
that are gonna that i'll be meeting with

1409
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:07,359
that we will be

1410
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:09,119
disguising their faces but they're going

1411
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,200
on the record well

1412
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,960
i've only got 30 seconds we can talk

1413
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,400
about this after the break

1414
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:16,720
but what's uh what's the cooperation

1415
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,000
like from the military

1416
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:20,319
are they being dickish are they being

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00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:21,680
intimidating

1418
00:59:28,069 --> 00:59:25,040
or do you feel comfortable

1419
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,079
they're they're basically saying that

1420
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,520
uh there are a number of them that are

1421
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,119
willing to come forward that

1422
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,119
want to talk about it but i have to blur

1423
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,799
their faces right and i'm like

1424
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,720
yeah i'll agree to that sure that's what

1425
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,319
you want that's what i'll do

1426
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:40,559
yeah so i'm doing there's some of that

1427
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,440
going on there's

1428
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:44,319
also interviews that were shot by some

1429
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:45,520
researchers

1430
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:47,760
of all the military some of the military

1431
00:59:52,230 --> 00:59:49,440
guys that were involved in the operation

1432
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:52,240
and the recovery that that has not been

1433
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:53,599
revealed and made public and i'm

1434
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:55,040
actually going after that footage as

1435
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:55,680
well

1436
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,200
i mean i'll do everything i can to get

1437
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:58,799
my hands on it you can you can take that

1438
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:01,040
to the bank um that's why i'm staying

1439
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,839
there for a month

1440
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:04,079
because i know that's what it takes i'm

1441
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:05,119
renting a house and

1442
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,559
just outside virginia and i'm going to

1443
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,359
be posted up there with resources and

1444
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:11,520
connections and just and i'll just ride

1445
01:00:14,549 --> 01:00:12,880
it out and wait

1446
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:14,559
because i've tracked down people before

1447
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:16,079
that way and that's the best way to do

1448
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:16,480
it

1449
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:21,200
that i'm coming

1450
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:23,520
and um and we want to find out

1451
01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:24,480
ultimately

1452
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:26,000
whether we'll get our hands on what

1453
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:27,680
we'll get our hands on is still unknown

1454
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,599
we've got some great testimony already

1455
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,680
but our ultimate objective is to find

1456
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:33,359
out where that debris went and where the

1457
01:00:36,910 --> 01:00:34,319
bodies went

1458
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,920
i want to do the vo on the trailer

1459
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:38,640
virginia

1460
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:42,400
it happened james fox

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this is fade to black i am your host

1462
01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:50,079
jimmy church

1463
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james fox is here to take his ufo

1464
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:54,640
victory lap this is fade to black and

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the

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planet you can follow me on twitter

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at j church radio you can follow james

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fox on twitter it's

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james c fox we've got it all up there

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01:01:09,109 --> 01:01:07,680
right now

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we'll be right back after this short

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1594
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,039
jimmy church tonight james fox is here

1595
01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:46,960
that's right james has taken his victory

1596
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:48,720
lap it's got to feel pretty good

1597
01:06:56,270 --> 01:06:52,960
it it really does long long career

1598
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:56,280
long career great stuff and uh

1599
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,480
virginia so um james you got to go and

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01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:02,480
you got to go and watch john carter now

1601
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:04,160
just for just for that line

1602
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:10,069
yeah i don't want to start any public

1603
01:07:15,109 --> 01:07:11,760
controversy or anything but

1604
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:15,119
race hobbes boy his voice gives yours a

1605
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:16,000
run for the money

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01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,280
i know i know when i grow up like i know

1607
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:21,119
i know when i grow up i want to be

1608
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,880
raised hobbs

1609
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:25,200
i was like race man you got it going on

1610
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:27,119
i heard that i was like what what

1611
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,880
yeah yeah totally and i gotta say

1612
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:33,119
when when race is on she's listening

1613
01:07:36,870 --> 01:07:34,000
right now uh

1614
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,880
he's producing for us and but uh when

1615
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:38,799
race is on the show

1616
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:41,280
i get to just kick back and take the

1617
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,079
night off

1618
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:44,160
he's such a professional and he's so

1619
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,200
knowledgeable

1620
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:48,160
and he's got those pipes and i don't

1621
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:49,520
have to do nothing man

1622
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:52,319
i can just kick back and it's just some

1623
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:52,720
of the

1624
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:54,640
some of my favorite nights on the show

1625
01:07:58,950 --> 01:07:56,079
are with race besides you

1626
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:58,960
james of course but uh hopefully but you

1627
01:08:05,349 --> 01:07:59,520
know

1628
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:05,359
voice he was jealous of was roy orbison

1629
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:08,640
right right yeah right right yeah right

1630
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,520
now let's see

1631
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,760
yeah i mean you got a you got a great

1632
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:13,760
radio voice race haas man i was like

1633
01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,880
wait a minute i know

1634
01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:16,880
something's up here i know and race

1635
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,319
knows it too so

1636
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:20,640
we need to stop right now yeah he knows

1637
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:21,600
it you know

1638
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:25,759
we need to stop right now so um

1639
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:29,359
uh there's so much to talk about

1640
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:32,640
with you and calling this the victory

1641
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,120
lap

1642
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,560
um and it and it is deserved um

1643
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:38,799
but there's another element to all of

1644
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:39,759
this

1645
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:43,359
and that is um not only who you have

1646
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:46,400
uh known and put in your films over the

1647
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:46,960
years

1648
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:49,920
but you're well connected and you're

1649
01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:50,319
you're

1650
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always in the middle of things as you

1651
01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:54,400
should be

1652
01:09:00,870 --> 01:08:58,640
but uh the uap task force report

1653
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:00,880
uh just the fact that it happened i

1654
01:09:04,630 --> 01:09:03,520
think was a big surprise for everybody

1655
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:04,640
that it actually

1656
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:07,600
was released on the 25th and just the

1657
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:08,400
announcement

1658
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,520
of the uap task force um

1659
01:09:15,910 --> 01:09:14,080
and the formation of that that was a big

1660
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:15,920
deal and i think a lot of this and

1661
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,880
probably including yourself james is it

1662
01:09:23,430 --> 01:09:20,000
ain't gonna happen

1663
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:23,440
it it it's cool but well we'll see

1664
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,960
well it did and the

1665
01:09:30,789 --> 01:09:28,719
components and the people and the

1666
01:09:34,070 --> 01:09:30,799
personalities around the uap

1667
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,080
task force you have been in the middle

1668
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:37,440
of for a couple of decades now

1669
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:40,799
what did you make of uh the announcement

1670
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:43,520
of the report first and second what was

1671
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:46,839
your reaction when you read it

1672
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:49,040
well i think it's a good question you

1673
01:09:51,510 --> 01:09:50,000
know it's like

1674
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,520
a lot of people are like oh you know

1675
01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,440
these negative nancies are like oh it's

1676
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:55,520
just a big nothing burger i'm like well

1677
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,239
actually i don't really see it that way

1678
01:10:02,229 --> 01:10:00,560
the fact that they're basically saying

1679
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,239
you know the united states we've got a

1680
01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:04,880
larger budget most advanced aerospace

1681
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:08,239
than russia and china combined you know

1682
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:10,000
and that the administration in congress

1683
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:11,760
concur that these objects are not

1684
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:12,880
classified u.s

1685
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:16,159
aircraft chris mellon wrote a a a good

1686
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,520
little p a short piece

1687
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:18,960
called don't dismiss the alien

1688
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:21,040
hypothesis if you kind of read between

1689
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,719
the lines on it

1690
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:23,920
those are some pretty powerful

1691
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:26,080
statements i mean they're not saying

1692
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:28,239
it's alien but they're not saying it's

1693
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:29,120
not alien

1694
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,480
and it's the fact that they're admitting

1695
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:32,480
not only that they're real but they're

1696
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:34,080
not ours and they're exhibiting a

1697
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,040
technology

1698
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:37,280
that's way beyond anything that we have

1699
01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:38,560
in our possession

1700
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,880
and extremely unlikely that china or

1701
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,000
russia has it

1702
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,320
i mean hello that's a pretty bold

1703
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:45,840
statement i'm sorry but

1704
01:10:49,830 --> 01:10:48,400
think about where we were before 2017

1705
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,840
and where we are today

1706
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:51,440
so much has happened and i know this

1707
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:53,199
because i can gauge

1708
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:56,080
the level of criticism and ridicule that

1709
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:57,679
i have received over the last three

1710
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:58,640
decades

1711
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,840
has stopped like almost entirely

1712
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,280
some of the biggest skeptics that used

1713
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:05,199
to really laugh at what i do

1714
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,400
in fact i'll tell you i'm on a

1715
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:10,400
a family kind of trip it's an annual

1716
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,880
event with uh my partner rebecca

1717
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:14,960
uh with her family in in north carolina

1718
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:16,640
and and one of

1719
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:18,800
the uh the gentleman this guy named

1720
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:20,400
charles and he's a doctor

1721
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:21,679
and he's always been making fun of me

1722
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:23,440
for the last 10 12 years

1723
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:26,320
but he's gotten kind of quiet lately you

1724
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:26,640
know

1725
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:29,600
like wait a minute wait a minute maybe

1726
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:31,840
james wasn't so crazy

1727
01:11:36,470 --> 01:11:34,159
because look man you can't i mean look

1728
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,480
60 minutes i've been waiting

1729
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,480
for my whole career for 60 minutes do

1730
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,239
you know how exciting that was for me

1731
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,320
to see 60 minutes do a serious piece on

1732
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,159
this you know how excited it was that

1733
01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:47,280
the new yorker did a serious piece on on

1734
01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,000
this

1735
01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:51,120
new york times you know fox news

1736
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:55,280
cnn like all these other it's

1737
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,239
it's unprecedented it just is and we

1738
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:59,840
can't put the genie back in the bottle

1739
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:01,840
so i'm extremely optimistic as to what's

1740
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:02,640
happening

1741
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,080
i know i think we need to keep the

1742
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:06,159
pressure on uh and

1743
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:08,000
keep pushing hard i know i'm gonna do

1744
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,159
that but it's exciting and i'm

1745
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:12,480
and i'm i don't feel it's a big nothing

1746
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:13,520
burger

1747
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:16,400
now um i'm gonna get into some specifics

1748
01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:17,600
on a few points

1749
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:22,239
where as happy as i was

1750
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:26,000
there was always something

1751
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:29,199
that rubbed me the wrong way and right

1752
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:29,840
it was

1753
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,120
percent

1754
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,360
satisfaction like when you bite into it

1755
01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,159
no no no

1756
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:38,800
no definitely not right i'm focusing on

1757
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:40,080
what was

1758
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,760
specifically for me going back to 60

1759
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:46,880
minutes

1760
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,000
um and i'm speaking with you and we are

1761
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:53,120
always very candid with each other so

1762
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:55,920
let me let me throw this out there at 60

1763
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:57,280
minutes i sit down

1764
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:00,400
i'm ready and at the beginning

1765
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:04,480
of the piece ufo was mentioned

1766
01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:07,360
right i thought okay here we go all

1767
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,920
right

1768
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:10,480
because everybody in the world knows the

1769
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:11,920
pop culture meaning

1770
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:15,600
behind ufo uaps not so much

1771
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:18,960
if if at all but here we have ufos

1772
01:13:25,669 --> 01:13:22,560
and then they never said ufo

1773
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:25,679
again in the piece so if

1774
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:27,760
somebody came in and missed the

1775
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:29,360
beginning

1776
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:32,159
now they wouldn't know that that piece

1777
01:13:36,229 --> 01:13:32,480
had

1778
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:36,239
anything to do with the subject of ufos

1779
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:36,800
and i

1780
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:40,239
felt that cbs took their foot off the

1781
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:41,199
gas

1782
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:44,640
they should have gone back mid midway

1783
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,239
and at the end and brought in ufos and

1784
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:50,239
you do that in radio right you come back

1785
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:51,520
after the break

1786
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:53,840
who am i talking to what are we talking

1787
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,760
about because maybe somebody didn't hear

1788
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,840
the intro to the show

1789
01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:59,040
you understand what i'm saying that's

1790
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,640
what and i thought that cbs

1791
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,640
missed it and i don't know if it was by

1792
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,800
intention or not but i was kind of

1793
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:08,960
bummed about that

1794
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,080
i'm looking at the segment it's

1795
01:14:19,630 --> 01:14:16,000
uh 13 almost 14 minutes long

1796
01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:19,640
it was aired two months ago and it has

1797
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:21,840
9.4 million views

1798
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:25,280
on their youtube channel already

1799
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:28,719
um that is fairly

1800
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:31,040
significant i mean yeah sure someone

1801
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,640
could have missed it i get it but it was

1802
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:34,480
a short segment it's not like an hour

1803
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:38,000
it was 14 minutes and uh and the intro

1804
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,199
i thought you know was

1805
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,679
very 60 minutes ask and uh i don't know

1806
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,360
i personally was like amazed

1807
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:47,920
you're amazed to see 60 minutes talking

1808
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:48,880
seriously

1809
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:51,920
about the phenomenon i mean yes i do

1810
01:14:56,229 --> 01:14:54,640
i do i do and if you sit there and say

1811
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:56,239
it was missing this or missing that you

1812
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:57,440
know what another thing that frustrates

1813
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,640
the hell out of me

1814
01:15:01,590 --> 01:15:00,560
is i see like neil degrasse tyson why

1815
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:01,600
the hell are they talking to neil

1816
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:02,719
degrasse tyson

1817
01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:06,000
his homework on uaps

1818
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:08,480
or ufos at all and i sit there and i

1819
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:09,440
hear him say

1820
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:11,920
well if these things were real why don't

1821
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:13,440
we have why does the government have

1822
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:15,120
better sensors and better photographic

1823
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:16,080
evidence i'm like

1824
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,760
uh they do and they're all saying that

1825
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:19,120
they do and we're trying to get it

1826
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,920
released

1827
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,400
next question well if these things were

1828
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,000
you know it's like

1829
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:27,199
not even addressing the fact that 50

1830
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:28,560
years ago

1831
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,800
they categorized sightings in three

1832
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:32,560
categories the scientific advisory

1833
01:15:35,189 --> 01:15:33,840
doctor at jalen heineck

1834
01:15:37,110 --> 01:15:35,199
it's the close encounters of the first

1835
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:37,120
second and third kind they're not even

1836
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:38,560
talking about the fact that there are

1837
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:39,440
beans

1838
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,920
associated with the crafts incredible

1839
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,280
credible reports

1840
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,840
that's just completely missed no not a

1841
01:15:48,790 --> 01:15:47,360
single word about it

1842
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:48,800
you know so there's things that am i

1843
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:50,960
frustrated of course i'm frustrated

1844
01:15:54,790 --> 01:15:54,080
do i hear mainstream media try to catch

1845
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:54,800
up

1846
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:58,159
with with this whole story absolutely

1847
01:16:01,189 --> 01:16:00,080
um they're scrambling right now you know

1848
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:01,199
we've got

1849
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,480
decades on them field research and

1850
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:07,280
talking to eyewitnesses i mean i think

1851
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:08,719
they're coming to the realization that

1852
01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:11,840
this phenomenon is real and probably

1853
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:13,280
that we're not alone i mean i've talked

1854
01:16:21,830 --> 01:16:14,320
to

1855
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:21,840
some stuff some shows with cnn anyway

1856
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:23,280
and i talked to some pretty high-level

1857
01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:25,360
people there and they're like yeah we

1858
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:26,640
saw your movie

1859
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,880
wow i was like well you guys just

1860
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:33,280
know any of this stuff you know like wow

1861
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,560
we all watched it

1862
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:36,800
i was like well good i'm glad that we're

1863
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:38,560
having an effect because

1864
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,840
i think you know one of the fortunate

1865
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,480
things

1866
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:44,159
the phenomenon did we obviously need to

1867
01:16:49,510 --> 01:16:46,080
get more eyeballs on it is

1868
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,520
is that it it it puts the the

1869
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:51,280
current state of affairs with what's

1870
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:53,199
happening today

1871
01:16:57,910 --> 01:16:56,159
in context with what's already happened

1872
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:57,920
so you've got the history

1873
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:59,120
and then you've got this gap and then

1874
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:00,560
you've got you know what's what's

1875
01:17:06,550 --> 01:17:03,040
happening today and that really

1876
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:06,560
um i think puts the pieces of the puzzle

1877
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:07,840
together in a way that

1878
01:17:11,350 --> 01:17:10,159
that that hadn't been done for them in

1879
01:17:13,990 --> 01:17:11,360
the past do you know what i mean

1880
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:14,000
i do there's a whole new there's a whole

1881
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:14,960
new wave

1882
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:17,679
of things that are happening with the

1883
01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:19,120
phenomenon i mean it's kind of cool

1884
01:17:23,950 --> 01:17:20,960
because

1885
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:23,960
we would have had a much probably

1886
01:17:29,830 --> 01:17:26,480
undoubtedly we would have had a much

1887
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:29,840
bigger splash with the film as a netflix

1888
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:31,440
original when it got released

1889
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:32,800
but it would have been like the flavor

1890
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:34,400
of the week or maybe the flavor of the

1891
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:35,120
month

1892
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:36,320
and then it would have been sort of you

1893
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:38,960
know good for variant yeah

1894
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,640
yeah it gets buried netflix has got so

1895
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:42,159
much content but

1896
01:17:45,990 --> 01:17:44,239
so we we had more of a slow roll out we

1897
01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:46,000
hit it with tivod which is

1898
01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:47,600
the transactional download stuff it's on

1899
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,199
your google and all that stuff

1900
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:52,320
and amazon prime amazon and itunes blah

1901
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,520
blah

1902
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:55,840
and now but now we're transitioning over

1903
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,640
to

1904
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,560
a streaming platform we've got a number

1905
01:18:01,030 --> 01:18:00,000
of big streaming platforms that are

1906
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:01,040
vying for it

1907
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:02,080
and we're obviously going to pick the

1908
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:05,120
most impactful one so that'll transition

1909
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:08,320
in the next month or two and that'll be

1910
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:09,360
a second wave

1911
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:12,400
of millions and tens of millions

1912
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:13,840
millions and millions of more people

1913
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:15,679
seeing the film which we're very excited

1914
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:16,159
about

1915
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:19,199
so it's more of a slow burn um

1916
01:18:22,709 --> 01:18:20,719
for the roll out of this film which is

1917
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:22,719
exciting sort of keeping the whole thing

1918
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,840
alive and

1919
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,440
getting out there to the international

1920
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,880
community and there were certain

1921
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:28,480
restrictions that we had that are no

1922
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:29,360
longer

1923
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:31,280
present that prevented us from doing

1924
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,400
that before but

1925
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:34,719
since june we've the the fields kind of

1926
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:35,520
open on that

1927
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:38,480
so there's going to be some very

1928
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:39,199
exciting

1929
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:41,920
new announcements with uh with with the

1930
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:43,840
phenomenon the film the phenomenon

1931
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,719
uh coming up this probably you know

1932
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:47,920
towards the end of this year maybe the

1933
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,719
fall

1934
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:51,360
yeah it's a pretty exciting time as

1935
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:51,760
we're

1936
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,280
starting to figure out uh the

1937
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:57,760
digital distribution platform when in

1938
01:19:01,350 --> 01:18:58,640
the past

1939
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,360
you know for so many years it was

1940
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:02,960
released in theaters

1941
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,000
and then it would uh you'd have a

1942
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:08,719
six month quiet time and then it's

1943
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:09,840
released on

1944
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:12,880
video right and that was the cycle

1945
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:14,960
that's the cycle that you went through

1946
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:16,159
and now it's

1947
01:19:20,830 --> 01:19:18,960
it's totally different uh with a digital

1948
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:20,840
distribution system first off it's

1949
01:19:25,310 --> 01:19:22,239
direct

1950
01:19:26,450 --> 01:19:25,320
and you don't have this crazy

1951
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:26,460
mafia-esque

1952
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:28,480
[Laughter]

1953
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:31,600
middleman distribution network thing

1954
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:32,239
that

1955
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:34,880
was always going on out there and you

1956
01:19:39,990 --> 01:19:36,719
never knew uh

1957
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:40,000
uh money and and and it was just a

1958
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:41,520
confusing

1959
01:19:45,510 --> 01:19:43,920
way of doing things as a director and as

1960
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:45,520
a production company and

1961
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:48,400
and even as an actor right of how things

1962
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:50,080
were being handled

1963
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:53,600
digital is a totally different thing and

1964
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:57,120
um your product whatever it may be

1965
01:20:04,630 --> 01:20:00,480
can have legs forever right

1966
01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:04,640
yeah if you handle it right and a

1967
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:07,040
multitude of different platforms like

1968
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:08,960
when i sold i know what i saw and out of

1969
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,159
the blue

1970
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:12,800
it was pretty much like you know one big

1971
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:13,360
sale

1972
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:16,560
much and

1973
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:19,199
that was that it's gone it's gone it's

1974
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:19,600
done

1975
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:20,960
it's out of your hands yeah it's gone

1976
01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:23,679
you know but but but today

1977
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:26,080
and it's funny actually because when we

1978
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,360
were wrapping up

1979
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:29,280
the deliverables i can't say that

1980
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:30,480
correct because it's

1981
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,760
it's how you feel when you make

1982
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:33,760
deliverables it's delivering the film to

1983
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:34,480
a

1984
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,159
different requests

1985
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:40,719
nightmare we call them deliverables but

1986
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:42,080
when you do that

1987
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:44,080
uh you know it was kind of like okay you

1988
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:45,520
do it once

1989
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,679
like i sold it to a e or i sold out of

1990
01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:49,760
the blue to nbc universal

1991
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:51,280
and that's pretty much it i mean you

1992
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:52,560
might make a couple one or two other

1993
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:54,719
sales here and there but no it's done

1994
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:57,520
but now it's like there's so many

1995
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:59,440
options so many platforms

1996
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:01,360
like my god it makes my head spin it's

1997
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,280
like and some of them are free streaming

1998
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:05,360
platforms but you get paid per view

1999
01:21:08,390 --> 01:21:06,880
because they've got commercials well

2000
01:21:10,070 --> 01:21:08,400
that's great for a whole

2001
01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:10,080
other younger generation because they

2002
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:11,679
don't want to pay which is fine

2003
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:13,840
i get it but they can watch it for free

2004
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:15,120
they just gotta watch commercials and

2005
01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:16,719
that's that you know what i mean

2006
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:18,880
and so that's a whole new level of

2007
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:21,120
access or there's like you know netflix

2008
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,560
or amazon prime amazon prime apparently

2009
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,639
have just flushed out they had people

2010
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,480
just uploading random content

2011
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:30,080
and i think it got out of control and

2012
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:31,520
they just said you know what

2013
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,760
stop it all and pretty much got rid of

2014
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:34,639
all their

2015
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:37,199
independent documentaries just gone they

2016
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:38,480
did a purge

2017
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:40,159
and that was right around the time we

2018
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,600
were negotiating with them

2019
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:44,159
so we still have the the transactional

2020
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,520
download where you can pay to see it but

2021
01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:47,280
they had like this whole amazon prime

2022
01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:49,120
membership and people could and i think

2023
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:50,639
that was i don't know

2024
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:53,679
65 million plus maybe it was a lot

2025
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:57,199
um uh but that we'll see what what

2026
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:58,719
happens with that getting back online

2027
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:00,800
but yeah there's 2b and there's youtube

2028
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:01,600
and vimeo

2029
01:22:04,790 --> 01:22:03,920
and netflix there's just a whole slew

2030
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,800
and then i got all the

2031
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:07,280
cable networks around the world so

2032
01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:09,520
anyway it's it's just changed a lot has

2033
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:11,679
changed since the last big ufo film i

2034
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:12,480
put out

2035
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,080
now uh back to the uap uh task force

2036
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:18,080
report

2037
01:22:25,110 --> 01:22:21,600
so much of the large

2038
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:25,120
swath of the community um

2039
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:28,719
was expecting disclosure

2040
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,560
i mean of the big d that's it

2041
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:34,080
talking about you know pushing your

2042
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:36,239
chips into the middle of the table

2043
01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:40,159
where they were and i can only imagine

2044
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:40,560
the

2045
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:43,520
emotional investment that so many people

2046
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:44,239
had

2047
01:22:47,910 --> 01:22:46,800
waiting for this that there was going to

2048
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:47,920
be an e.t

2049
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:51,199
component in this report which

2050
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:54,560
obviously wasn't there what

2051
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:56,960
were it it wasn't there but it wasn't

2052
01:23:01,270 --> 01:22:59,120
but it also wasn't not there

2053
01:23:02,950 --> 01:23:01,280
yeah i know what i mean but that's not

2054
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,960
enough i mean it wasn't like

2055
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:04,719
they didn't just close the door on it

2056
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:05,679
they could have just closed the door and

2057
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:06,639
said

2058
01:23:13,990 --> 01:23:10,320
we can say defensively that it's not

2059
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:14,000
extraterrestrial or alien or you know

2060
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,840
but it's like okay we can't rule that

2061
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:17,440
out we're not going to sit there and say

2062
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:18,239
i mean

2063
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:20,000
a lot of times it comes down to a measly

2064
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:20,960
headline i don't know there was

2065
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:21,920
something

2066
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,600
the other day that there was a big

2067
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:25,360
report that came out and i was so

2068
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:26,800
frustrated with the headline i was like

2069
01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:28,719
wait a minute that's the wrong headline

2070
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:30,400
and i was so frustrated i actually

2071
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:32,400
posted something on my facebook again i

2072
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,120
was like

2073
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:35,280
no that's the wrong headline it should

2074
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:37,280
be this and i actually called leslie

2075
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:38,480
kane and i was like

2076
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:40,000
leslie what is this headline this

2077
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,679
doesn't make any sense

2078
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:43,520
and she's like i know it's crazy i don't

2079
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:45,760
know who wrote the headline and

2080
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:48,000
and and they actually they actually

2081
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:49,120
changed it

2082
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,440
i you know they weren't didn't get the

2083
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:53,120
cue for me i'm sure that enough people

2084
01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:54,560
complained but it was like

2085
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,920
you know like you can't say definitively

2086
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:59,840
it's extraterrestrial but you can't say

2087
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:01,440
it's not

2088
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:02,960
that's the thing that kind of matters

2089
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:04,080
you know sometimes like the whole

2090
01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:05,199
headline so

2091
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:07,120
i don't know you know i am i a little

2092
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:10,000
frustrated of course i am

2093
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,760
what's your message but what's your

2094
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:13,760
message to the community

2095
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,960
that didn't get that bt component let's

2096
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:19,360
let's well my message is let's not focus

2097
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:22,080
on what wasn't let's focus on what was

2098
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,080
and be happy about that because believe

2099
01:24:28,629 --> 01:24:26,239
me as someone who's been

2100
01:24:29,430 --> 01:24:28,639
doing this for you know quite some time

2101
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:29,440
now

2102
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,480
we really are in unchartered waters

2103
01:24:36,709 --> 01:24:35,040
and i think it's very exciting and would

2104
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,719
i like to see more of course

2105
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,880
i would and am i a little disappointed

2106
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:40,320
of course i am

2107
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,440
but look man it's like i said focus on

2108
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:45,120
what was and what lesson what what

2109
01:24:48,229 --> 01:24:45,920
wasn't

2110
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:48,239
uh and let's continue holding their feet

2111
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,280
to the fire

2112
01:24:54,390 --> 01:24:52,320
um i'm i recognize

2113
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:54,400
that you know you only have the

2114
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:56,000
spotlight on you and the

2115
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:58,159
number of us have the spotlight right

2116
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,360
now

2117
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:00,960
some more than others but doesn't matter

2118
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:03,280
we're all in this together is it is to

2119
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:03,679
keep

2120
01:25:06,709 --> 01:25:05,679
pushing hard now is not the time to put

2121
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:06,719
my feet up

2122
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,679
um i'm doing a turnaround with virginia

2123
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:11,360
i mean there's been a lot of talk of

2124
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:14,239
of recovered debris well that's one case

2125
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,880
where

2126
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:17,280
it's extremely credible reports of

2127
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:18,800
recovered debris

2128
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,280
and bodies there's been murmurings of

2129
01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:22,880
that in the new york times in new york

2130
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:25,760
new yorker and other interviews i mean

2131
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:28,159
my god what was that one podcast that

2132
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:31,040
that that harry reid even talked about i

2133
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:32,320
think the guy said to him like well what

2134
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,280
about

2135
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:35,440
you know recover debris and stuff and

2136
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,800
you'd think someone of

2137
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:38,560
harry reid stature would have said would

2138
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:40,239
have just shut him down but he didn't

2139
01:25:44,149 --> 01:25:42,159
it's like he left that door open it's

2140
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:44,159
like so i'm going to focus pushing

2141
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:45,360
really hard on

2142
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:46,960
tracking some of this stuff down whether

2143
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:48,400
i actually get my hands on or not that's

2144
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,199
another story

2145
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:51,280
but at least finding out where it went i

2146
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:52,639
think some of it went back to the united

2147
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:53,440
states

2148
01:25:58,390 --> 01:25:56,080
but just to keep the pressure on keep uh

2149
01:26:01,750 --> 01:25:58,400
shining a light on on the phenomenon

2150
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:01,760
i you know i'm i'm i'm doing that

2151
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,400
film i'm i'm also i haven't really made

2152
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:06,800
the announcement but i'm also

2153
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:10,560
working on a a sequel to

2154
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,920
to the phenomenon um coupled with the

2155
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:14,800
other

2156
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:17,600
thing that i'm doing so i'm believe me i

2157
01:26:19,750 --> 01:26:18,159
promise you

2158
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:19,760
i might be a little quiet lately but i

2159
01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:21,920
forget to assure you that i'm keeping

2160
01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:23,280
the foot

2161
01:26:26,470 --> 01:26:26,080
firmly pressed on the accelerator pedal

2162
01:26:27,910 --> 01:26:26,480
wow

2163
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:27,920
you know can you take it a little yeah

2164
01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:29,679
sorry yeah well

2165
01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:31,520
staying on and i'm looking at the clock

2166
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:33,199
here we got a break in in like three

2167
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:34,960
minutes and we can pick up when we come

2168
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:35,679
back

2169
01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:41,840
uh component of all of this um

2170
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:44,639
this is not a united states phenomenon i

2171
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:45,520
mean

2172
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:48,639
that's just an obvious statement but

2173
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:51,760
um when something uh

2174
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:54,239
may crash in canada or australia or

2175
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:55,520
guatemala or

2176
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,719
chile or brazil do you

2177
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,719
do you suspect that the united states

2178
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:02,880
has got their tendons into

2179
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,920
talons you know into into all of these

2180
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:07,600
countries that are

2181
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:11,120
you know our allies and we immediately

2182
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,719
deploy a team

2183
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,120
and spirit this stuff back to the united

2184
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:17,120
states

2185
01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:20,000
well what i can say is every country

2186
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:20,800
i've been to

2187
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:23,679
or uh foreigner that i've discussed

2188
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:25,440
including generals

2189
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:28,560
and colonels in cases all across

2190
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:32,159
the world including tehran um

2191
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:35,600
when i interviewed uh what was the

2192
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:36,400
iranian

2193
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:39,520
pilot harvest jafari yes uh that there

2194
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,080
is a

2195
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:43,440
u.s component to it whether they're

2196
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:46,239
uh questioning the questioning the

2197
01:27:49,990 --> 01:27:46,800
witnesses

2198
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:50,000
trying to obtain evidence or outright

2199
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:53,120
um intimidating the witnesses i've heard

2200
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,760
that

2201
01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:55,920
and i've heard it with both civilian and

2202
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:58,080
and with the local military

2203
01:28:03,669 --> 01:28:01,199
um you know so there's

2204
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:03,679
definitely and has been and continues to

2205
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:04,400
be

2206
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:06,000
a presence in all these different

2207
01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:08,560
countries from the u.s

2208
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:11,440
and uh and i've seen it personally i've

2209
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:12,800
personally talked to the witnesses that

2210
01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:13,280
have

2211
01:28:16,950 --> 01:28:15,840
shared this information with me um time

2212
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:16,960
and time and time again

2213
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,440
so it's like people say oh well the you

2214
01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:21,440
know the eight tip or the new uap

2215
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,520
task force you know it's amazing that

2216
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:25,120
you know the pentagon is investing you

2217
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:26,560
froze away look they never stopped

2218
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:28,000
believe me they didn't

2219
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:30,960
because i was talking to a general in

2220
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,679
belgium

2221
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:34,159
i was talking to a general in tehran he

2222
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:34,960
told me about a

2223
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:37,840
u.s president since 1976 boots on the

2224
01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:39,199
ground

2225
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,840
from deputy base commander charles holt

2226
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:43,280
was telling me the unknown government

2227
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:44,400
agency u.s

2228
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,440
showed up in england uh you know

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everywhere africa i mean there was a

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presence of the u.s embassy in the rua

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case

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uh certainly in in virginia i was

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01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:58,880
talked to the mother the mother of two

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01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:00,560
young women at the time

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who had men in suit show up at her place

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intimidating her

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um so yeah there's there has been

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continues to be

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and i'm getting the impression that

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when there's solid evidence that tends

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to get whisked off

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and back to the united states can i

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01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,560
prove that right now no i cannot

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01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:22,080
am i going to try and prove it i'm going

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01:29:26,149 --> 01:29:24,000
to do my best yes

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this is fade to black i am your host

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01:29:31,750 --> 01:29:28,880
jimmy church tonight james fox is here

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he's taking his ufo victory lap you see

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how i just did the reset james

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that's what that's what 60 minutes

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didn't do we'll be right back

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stay with us

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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you are listening to fate to black with

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to block i'm your host

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jimmy church tonight james fox

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01:33:31,270 --> 01:33:29,679
takes his ufo victory lap more with

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james in just a second i want to talk to

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you about virtual shield vpn

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needs their own vpn uh yesterday i went

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was protecting me my location everything

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everybody is listening to her show but

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nobody knows where i

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am i can come from a secure undisclosed

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thanks to virtual shield nobody knows

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nobody knows my search history nobody

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knows what i'm clicking on

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as i bounce around all of these

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subjects that's it that's what i do

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because virtual shield has a strict no

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also type in virtualshield.com

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50 off everybody needs their own vpn

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01:35:01,030 --> 01:34:58,639
including james fox he's always

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01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:01,040
in an undisclosed location like he is

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01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:02,800
right now he even said to me earlier

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01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:04,639
today said jimmy i need 12 minutes i've

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01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:06,560
got to go into my skiff

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01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:10,560
i've got uh i've gotta

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01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:14,400
uh you gave me 14. yeah yes

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01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:16,960
you've got yourself a cage you know

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01:35:21,669 --> 01:35:18,800
you're you're enclosed

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01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:21,679
but uh you know and and that's a weird

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01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:23,760
situation james where

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01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:28,880
if you go back to 1995 you know aol

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01:35:32,229 --> 01:35:31,840
the internet is is starting to come out

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01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:32,239
and

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01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:35,440
things but

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01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:39,119
everybody was typing in ufos

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01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:42,239
right some some were typing in porn but

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01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:45,360
for me it was ufos and and

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01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:48,400
that is what the world is interested

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01:35:52,229 --> 01:35:51,280
in today and including you know like

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01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:52,239
with the fbi

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01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:54,560
their vault the number one search term

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01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:57,360
on the fbi website is ufos

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01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:00,480
and and we didn't know back then in 1995

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01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,159
that today

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01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:04,880
uh how important the internet would

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01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:05,520
become

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01:36:11,189 --> 01:36:08,800
but how open you are to

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01:36:13,590 --> 01:36:11,199
everybody else out there you've really

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01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:13,600
got to watch your toes today

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01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:16,800
uh with with the internet and censorship

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01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:19,040
and and what you speak about and search

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01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:20,880
terms and words

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01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:22,560
did you ever think it would get this

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01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:29,750
no you know it's really funny because i

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01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:30,560
was

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01:36:38,470 --> 01:36:34,960
you'll get the relevance of this

2393
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:38,480
in a second but i was in a public

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01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:42,480
library in chicago in the late 90s

2395
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:44,880
and i was trying to get a letter written

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01:36:49,430 --> 01:36:45,520
to

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01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:49,440
of ufos

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01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:51,119
for a film i was working on which

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01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:52,800
actually the letters included

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01:36:56,790 --> 01:36:55,520
in the film out of the blue and i

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01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:56,800
punched in

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01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:59,119
the address in a public library at a

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01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,239
universe at

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01:37:07,750 --> 01:37:03,520
a university uh uh it was

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01:37:08,229 --> 01:37:07,760
it was u.s white whitehouse.com or

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01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:08,239
something

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01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:11,280
typical address

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01:37:15,510 --> 01:37:14,480
you'd go to do that to get to the white

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01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:15,520
house

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01:37:19,430 --> 01:37:18,000
and a porn site popped up and it was one

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01:37:21,270 --> 01:37:19,440
of those things where it's like

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01:37:22,790 --> 01:37:21,280
it popped up and then all these other

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01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:22,800
windows are popping up and i can't even

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01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:23,440
close them

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01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:26,000
in a public library like it was so

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01:37:31,149 --> 01:37:27,040
embarrassing

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01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:31,159
but some had someone had purchased

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01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:34,000
us.gov.com or something like this and it

2419
01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:35,760
was some porn site

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01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,639
and i was like jesus i'm trying to reach

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01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:40,159
the president and be like looking at me

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01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:41,199
that's like you know

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01:37:47,669 --> 01:37:44,560
anyways kind of yeah sure you are right

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01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:47,679
i know no it's totally it's totally true

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01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,760
but that was at the time when when you

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01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:50,960
know dot com was

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01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:52,400
people were just getting hit like if you

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01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,000
were coca-cola or you're

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01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:56,320
the white house or you were whoever to

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01:37:59,669 --> 01:37:58,080
buy up all the different domain names

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01:38:02,070 --> 01:37:59,679
all the different variations

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01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:02,080
of those names because people were had

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01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:03,840
the foresight to do that

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01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:07,119
and and then made a lot of money the um

2435
01:38:13,510 --> 01:38:10,159
uh the other side of this is

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01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:13,520
is with i got a letter from president

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01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:14,880
clinton by the way

2438
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:18,239
you did well from the white house

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01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,480
yes i did yeah it was cool yeah yeah

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01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,320
back in the 90s

2441
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:25,520
did he sign it bill it basically said

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01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,080
that

2443
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,840
it was kind of cool it was white house

2444
01:38:30,229 --> 01:38:29,280
and it said that uh thank you for your

2445
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:30,239
inquiry

2446
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,679
you know with nasa everything else that

2447
01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:33,360
we have we

2448
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,639
don't have the definitive proof that

2449
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:38,159
you can read it and out of the blue that

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01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:41,040
that ufos are related to aliens

2451
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:42,639
or that they're not explainable by

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01:38:47,189 --> 01:38:45,119
something something but it wasn't like

2453
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,199
they don't exist you're selling go sell

2454
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:48,880
crazy somewhere else it was like

2455
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:51,199
wow they actually gave me something of a

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01:38:54,629 --> 01:38:52,080
little substance

2457
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:54,639
i was kind of impressed yeah they sent

2458
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,560
me off to nasa and of course

2459
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:58,800
you know people are like oh well nasa's

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01:39:02,870 --> 01:38:59,600
involved

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01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:02,880
today with ufos the uap task force

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01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,199
nasa was involved during the carter

2463
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:07,119
administration he got nasa involved

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01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:09,199
i don't know what to what level or if he

2465
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:10,719
got shunned on it or not but they were

2466
01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:12,080
definitely involved

2467
01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:15,119
carter had and asked them to do that

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01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:17,679
um so yeah anyway yeah i've seen a

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01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:18,960
little bit of

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01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:23,040
the past you know repeat itself

2471
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:27,119
speaking of letters there are rumors out

2472
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:28,400
there

2473
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:36,239
written to somebody you may know um

2474
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:40,320
from steven spielberg confirming

2475
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:47,350
well i have a letter from steven

2476
01:39:52,790 --> 01:39:49,760
spielberg but

2477
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:52,800
my letter is not that

2478
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:55,040
i don't know if your audience will find

2479
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:56,719
it interesting or not but

2480
01:40:01,750 --> 01:39:58,800
uh i have a letter are you referring to

2481
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:01,760
that i might be

2482
01:40:07,030 --> 01:40:04,480
okay so are you squirming is this

2483
01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:07,040
something that you can talk about

2484
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:10,400
well yeah yeah yeah uh i so when i

2485
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:12,400
finished i know what i saw

2486
01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:15,600
i had a screening at uh cnn at the

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01:40:20,830 --> 01:40:17,760
executive producer for larry king live

2488
01:40:22,229 --> 01:40:20,840
wendy walker at her home in southern

2489
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:22,239
california and

2490
01:40:25,030 --> 01:40:23,520
it was all kind of exciting and they

2491
01:40:26,790 --> 01:40:25,040
were like oh we're so excited this movie

2492
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:26,800
is so compelling and

2493
01:40:30,149 --> 01:40:28,719
and uh you know i know what i saw is a

2494
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:30,159
pretty good pretty good talk i was

2495
01:40:35,189 --> 01:40:31,920
relatively happy with it

2496
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:35,199
um and uh long story short

2497
01:40:40,709 --> 01:40:38,480
larry king ends up you know contacting

2498
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,719
spielberg and says hey there's this

2499
01:40:44,229 --> 01:40:42,480
really it's the real life close

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01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:44,239
encounters of the third kind would you

2501
01:40:48,390 --> 01:40:45,440
would you like to check it out and

2502
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:48,400
spielberg says yes and so larry king

2503
01:40:54,310 --> 01:40:51,440
sent my doc to steven spielberg

2504
01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:54,320
which was kind of cool and uh and i

2505
01:40:59,430 --> 01:40:55,520
didn't hear anything

2506
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,440
i got a call from caa

2507
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:01,760
a couple days later and it was a woman

2508
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:02,719
named

2509
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:05,840
jacqueline cesario she was a rep at caa

2510
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:08,960
caa everybody is uh talent one of the

2511
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:12,480
biggest talent agencies in the world

2512
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:15,600
yes so uh she called me and i didn't

2513
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:17,280
know her and she's like james fox

2514
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:19,520
yeah i just want you to know and she was

2515
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:20,639
kind of giddy

2516
01:41:24,149 --> 01:41:22,719
i want you to know that uh that steven

2517
01:41:25,990 --> 01:41:24,159
spielberg is about to watch your movie

2518
01:41:28,390 --> 01:41:26,000
it was like 10 o'clock in the morning

2519
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:28,400
i was like what she's like yeah he's

2520
01:41:34,550 --> 01:41:31,119
gonna go watch your movie right now

2521
01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:34,560
very exciting i was like wow okay

2522
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:36,239
god i can't believe it so i called my

2523
01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:37,520
dad it was like 10 o'clock in the

2524
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:38,480
morning like dad you're not going to

2525
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:39,520
believe this

2526
01:41:43,510 --> 01:41:41,280
steven spielberg's watching my movie

2527
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:43,520
like right now he's like now is it yeah

2528
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:44,880
now

2529
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,719
so i went down to my dad's house we had

2530
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:48,080
a cup of tea together and we were like

2531
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:50,080
it was a weird feeling knowing that

2532
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:54,000
steven spielberg was looking at my movie

2533
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:56,960
and uh a couple hours go by and i got

2534
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:58,880
another call from caa again from

2535
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:01,600
jacqueline cesario and she says uh

2536
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:04,719
well uh spielberg uh

2537
01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:07,679
watched your movie i said well great

2538
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:08,159
what

2539
01:42:15,830 --> 01:42:13,600
didn't say anything she goes he didn't

2540
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:15,840
he wrote a letter i said he wrote a

2541
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:16,800
letter

2542
01:42:22,310 --> 01:42:20,800
to uh to larry king

2543
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:22,320
i said what did it say she goes i don't

2544
01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:24,560
know i said that's it

2545
01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:25,920
she's like yeah he watched it all by

2546
01:42:30,950 --> 01:42:28,080
himself i was like

2547
01:42:31,590 --> 01:42:30,960
okay sitting there like feeling kind of

2548
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:31,600
like

2549
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:34,560
you know god i'd love to know some more

2550
01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:35,920
so i get

2551
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,159
probably like two or three days later

2552
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:43,040
i get a call from uh abrielle gallagher

2553
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:45,199
one of the producers at larry king live

2554
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,400
she's like james i got a letter from

2555
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:49,920
steven spielberg

2556
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:52,960
about your movie i'm like what she's

2557
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:54,800
like yeah i got it in my hands

2558
01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:57,040
i said well what does it say she's like

2559
01:43:01,030 --> 01:42:57,920
i'm not going to tell you i'm going to

2560
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:04,310
oh my god you're killing me right

2561
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:07,840
i was like he's killing me so

2562
01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:11,199
i get the letter fedex from la to my

2563
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:11,920
house

2564
01:43:15,030 --> 01:43:14,239
and i live this i live in a small town

2565
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:15,040
everybody

2566
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,320
fedex driver shows up the next morning

2567
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:22,480
he's giddy he's like james you're not

2568
01:43:25,750 --> 01:43:24,719
gonna believe this he's like i said what

2569
01:43:28,229 --> 01:43:25,760
he goes you got a letter

2570
01:43:29,270 --> 01:43:28,239
you got a fedex package from larry king

2571
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:29,280
i'm like cool

2572
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:31,360
guess what he's like well i go it's from

2573
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:33,119
it's a letter from steven spielberg

2574
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:34,480
about my movie goes

2575
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:38,080
oh my god can i can i stay and what can

2576
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,840
i see what it says

2577
01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:41,520
yeah so we both opened it out of my

2578
01:43:45,510 --> 01:43:43,040
driveway and

2579
01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:45,520
uh and i read it and it was from it from

2580
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:47,119
from

2581
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:49,440
steven spielberg signed his name his

2582
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:50,960
letterhead everything

2583
01:43:54,550 --> 01:43:53,040
and it was basically like stephen saying

2584
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:54,560
you know dear larry i

2585
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:57,440
you know with great curiosity i watched

2586
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:58,159
the uh

2587
01:44:02,470 --> 01:44:01,040
the film that you sent and found it

2588
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:02,480
compelling

2589
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,719
unfortunately he even though he based

2590
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:06,480
all a lot of his

2591
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:09,280
movies on the you know extraterrestrial

2592
01:44:12,629 --> 01:44:10,239
theme

2593
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:12,639
he himself had never seen a ufo and how

2594
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:14,320
just how unfair

2595
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,719
that was and then he said i hope you

2596
01:44:22,149 --> 01:44:18,639
continue to cover this topic in

2597
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:22,159
on your shows i watch them uh

2598
01:44:28,470 --> 01:44:25,360
frequently and that the government will

2599
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:28,480
disclose the true natures and origins of

2600
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:30,880
the phenomenon something like that

2601
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,159
it was kind of cool so at the time i had

2602
01:44:37,830 --> 01:44:36,159
yeah sorry no no go ahead and finish

2603
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:37,840
because i think you know my next

2604
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:39,119
question

2605
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,440
well no so at the time it was like you

2606
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,280
know my distributor was saying

2607
01:44:46,149 --> 01:44:44,800
my god you have a letter from steven

2608
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:46,159
spielberg about your movie basically

2609
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:47,280
calling it compelling do you have any

2610
01:44:51,830 --> 01:44:48,800
idea what that would do

2611
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:51,840
for the marketing aspect of it so

2612
01:44:57,510 --> 01:44:55,360
i contacted his um

2613
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:57,520
his publicity guy and his name will come

2614
01:45:01,750 --> 01:44:58,560
to me in a minute

2615
01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:01,760
and i said uh yeah i you know introduced

2616
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,600
myself and i said hey uh

2617
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:05,920
he goes oh no we don't endorse document

2618
01:45:10,390 --> 01:45:08,719
no we don't do that i said well actually

2619
01:45:12,470 --> 01:45:10,400
billboard already did it i have the

2620
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:12,480
letter and he got all weary he's like

2621
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:13,119
you have

2622
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:15,600
you had a letter i said yeah i got it he

2623
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:16,960
goes well how'd you get it i said

2624
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:19,920
i got it from larry king i i have a

2625
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:20,960
letter

2626
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:24,400
and uh and he he asked me not to go

2627
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:27,600
public with it which i was really

2628
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:29,760
really upset about you know and my dad

2629
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:31,119
at time was like

2630
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:33,360
possession is nine times the law son

2631
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:34,320
certainly knows

2632
01:45:37,430 --> 01:45:36,800
but i was like you know i was like oh

2633
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:37,440
and

2634
01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:40,560
anyway i sat on it for like 10 years

2635
01:45:44,149 --> 01:45:42,560
and you know the difference it would

2636
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:44,159
have made for me not just financially

2637
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,280
but just like

2638
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,280
you know because i never did i never do

2639
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,560
any of this stuff for the money is it

2640
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:50,159
nice to make money doing what you love

2641
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:51,360
of course it is

2642
01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:52,960
but it's not what propels me it's not

2643
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:54,080
what gets me out of bed in the morning

2644
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:55,280
it's not why

2645
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:57,679
i chose this path um because i'm an

2646
01:46:01,430 --> 01:45:59,040
incredibly curious person

2647
01:46:02,870 --> 01:46:01,440
and i just i'm fascinated with the topic

2648
01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:02,880
and i think that people have a right to

2649
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:03,360
know

2650
01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:05,760
about what's going on that that's what

2651
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,719
excites me

2652
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:09,280
but that letter would have really got

2653
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:10,080
the attention of

2654
01:46:13,510 --> 01:46:12,480
mainstream on my film and unfortunately

2655
01:46:16,709 --> 01:46:13,520
that didn't happen

2656
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,719
and and i didn't violate you know his

2657
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:18,320
wishes and i was like oh i'll

2658
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:20,560
screw it you know and so i just sat on

2659
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:22,080
that damn letter which would have been a

2660
01:46:25,430 --> 01:46:23,119
gold mine

2661
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:25,440
for the promotion promotional purposes

2662
01:46:28,629 --> 01:46:26,400
right

2663
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:28,639
so anyway what do you feel i haven't

2664
01:46:33,669 --> 01:46:30,239
framed in my wall in my office

2665
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:33,679
yeah i'm sure you do um do

2666
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:36,880
do you feel uh certainly with

2667
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:40,320
with spielberg and the subjects of his

2668
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,960
film you know from the beginning right

2669
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:44,239
he has

2670
01:46:47,669 --> 01:46:46,400
uh if not every film i can tell you

2671
01:46:50,790 --> 01:46:47,679
something else

2672
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:50,800
spielberg but carry on well that's my

2673
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:52,000
question though

2674
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:55,440
is he in the know certainly they watched

2675
01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:56,960
you know close encounters of the third

2676
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:57,360
kind

2677
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:59,280
at the white house with ronald reagan

2678
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:00,480
yeah um

2679
01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:03,679
his subjects are very direct

2680
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:06,719
and and his comment

2681
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,320
in your letter about maybe the

2682
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:09,920
government will disclose

2683
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:13,040
right yes yes that that says something

2684
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,600
i have more i have more which i will

2685
01:47:19,590 --> 01:47:16,719
share with you

2686
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,600
please so uh i won't reveal the

2687
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:21,119
gentleman's name who gave this to me but

2688
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:22,000
i can say he's

2689
01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:24,560
unimpeachable his credentials are as

2690
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:25,920
good as it gets

2691
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:29,440
um uh he is very

2692
01:47:32,070 --> 01:47:30,880
very high up in the entertainment

2693
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:32,080
industry he's a good friend of mine he's

2694
01:47:35,830 --> 01:47:33,760
been incredibly influential

2695
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:35,840
pulling strings behind the scenes for me

2696
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:37,199
for over a decade

2697
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,440
decade and a half he's a he's a known

2698
01:47:45,109 --> 01:47:43,440
powerhouse in the entertainment industry

2699
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,119
very well respected

2700
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:47,760
very successful and he's been quietly

2701
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:50,000
and discreetly pulling strings for me

2702
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:53,040
and i one day said to him

2703
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:56,159
why do you help me you know

2704
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:58,400
why have you been so kind to me and he

2705
01:48:05,109 --> 01:48:01,360
told me two stories he told me one story

2706
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:05,119
about um i'm trying to think of the

2707
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:06,000
guy's name

2708
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:09,360
that he he he had a uh it'll come to his

2709
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:11,760
famous actor he was in he was in uh that

2710
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:14,320
pool shark movie with um

2711
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:16,480
um what am i drawing the blank on his

2712
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,040
name right now there was one story about

2713
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:21,440
jackie gleason oh jackie gleason right

2714
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:22,239
okay and

2715
01:48:26,310 --> 01:48:24,400
jackie gleason he knew jackie gleason

2716
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:26,320
and jackie gleason pulled him aside one

2717
01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:26,800
time

2718
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,400
and he's like i heard this from jackie

2719
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:29,920
gleason's mouth

2720
01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:32,239
don't ever believe what anyone tells you

2721
01:48:35,350 --> 01:48:34,400
that ufos aren't real i've had 100

2722
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:35,360
confirmation

2723
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,560
they're absolutely real and uh and that

2724
01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:39,920
stayed with him

2725
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:41,760
and then the other thing was he said

2726
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:44,400
that he spoke directly

2727
01:48:49,510 --> 01:48:47,440
directly to spielberg after spielberg

2728
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:49,520
had screened i think it was e.t at the

2729
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:51,119
white house but to be honest with you

2730
01:48:53,669 --> 01:48:52,320
it could have been close encounters i

2731
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:53,679
don't remember it was one of the two

2732
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:54,480
right

2733
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:57,760
and he said that that spielberg

2734
01:49:01,830 --> 01:48:59,360
to some comments were made with the

2735
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:01,840
president then um

2736
01:49:08,709 --> 01:49:05,440
uh reagan but on top of that

2737
01:49:12,709 --> 01:49:08,719
there was an unknown fellow in a

2738
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:12,719
suit clearly working with the government

2739
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:15,199
who slipped him an envelope and in that

2740
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:16,000
envelope

2741
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,440
was a photograph of either the bean of

2742
01:49:22,950 --> 01:49:21,520
the crash debris at roswell

2743
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:22,960
i think it was the beam that's what he

2744
01:49:28,470 --> 01:49:24,960
told me and

2745
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:28,480
the my contact said to spielberg

2746
01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:30,800
well what did you do with that he said i

2747
01:49:33,510 --> 01:49:32,320
have it in a vault in my home he's like

2748
01:49:35,830 --> 01:49:33,520
are you ever going to go public with it

2749
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:35,840
he said no i'm not

2750
01:49:40,390 --> 01:49:38,639
but he has that and i can tell you that

2751
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:40,400
this source of mind

2752
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:42,480
never in a million years would make this

2753
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:43,440
story up

2754
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:47,040
i absolutely unequivocally believe him

2755
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:50,239
and um and if you knew who he was you'd

2756
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:50,960
believe him too

2757
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:53,440
so i just can't reveal his name because

2758
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:54,719
he wouldn't want that

2759
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:56,719
but yeah that's what he told me so yeah

2760
01:50:01,350 --> 01:49:58,880
so spielberg definitely

2761
01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:01,360
uh has had uh yeah he knows what's going

2762
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:02,239
on i mean you know

2763
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:05,840
yeah well it's it's because of his

2764
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:09,199
his content and you look at it you know

2765
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:12,239
over the life of you know it's just been

2766
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:12,560
an

2767
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:16,159
incredible career but he keeps going

2768
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:19,040
back and tipping his toe in the water

2769
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,280
right and in a very fascinating way

2770
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,280
i wonder if spielberg has watched the

2771
01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:27,840
phenomenon i tried to get a copy to him

2772
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:30,639
right i think that he would because you

2773
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:30,960
know

2774
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:33,599
steven spielberg is the one indirectly

2775
01:50:37,669 --> 01:50:36,080
who told me about the rua case

2776
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:37,679
because back in the 90s when i was

2777
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:39,599
working on my first ufo film

2778
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:42,400
50 years of denial which um uh tim

2779
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:44,239
crawford ufo tv

2780
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:47,119
after uh discovery channel aired it on

2781
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:48,159
the learning channel he's been

2782
01:50:50,950 --> 01:50:49,280
distributing it

2783
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:50,960
you know it's it's a nice little piece

2784
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:52,480
whatever but

2785
01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:54,320
i was working on that piece in the 90s

2786
01:50:56,709 --> 01:50:55,760
and i was just naive enough the time to

2787
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,719
think i can get an interview with

2788
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:58,400
spielberg and i we had a mutual friend

2789
01:51:01,589 --> 01:51:00,000
this woman janet yang

2790
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:01,599
and she got back to me and she's like

2791
01:51:05,629 --> 01:51:03,440
yeah he's not going to meet with you

2792
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:05,639
but he does want you to know it was like

2793
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:07,760
1997 probably at the time yeah it was

2794
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:09,040
like 1997.

2795
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:10,159
he doesn't want you to know that a

2796
01:51:12,870 --> 01:51:11,520
couple years ago there was a landing

2797
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,880
case in africa

2798
01:51:16,470 --> 01:51:14,239
and apparently it was a close encounter

2799
01:51:19,430 --> 01:51:16,480
of the third kind of school or whatever

2800
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:19,440
and i just thought no yeah right sure

2801
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:21,280
you know i kind of had the same reaction

2802
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:24,320
i've learned from all the times that

2803
01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:25,760
i've pooh-poohed some of these stories

2804
01:51:29,990 --> 01:51:26,560
like

2805
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:30,000
to to suspend judgment and review

2806
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:31,440
the evidence before i just quickly

2807
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:33,199
dismiss it because you just can't

2808
01:51:36,550 --> 01:51:34,960
imagine that something of that magnitude

2809
01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:36,560
could occur in broad daylight

2810
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:38,000
and the whole world not know about it

2811
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:39,840
and it's just i don't know

2812
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:42,159
you know so i just dismissed it but i've

2813
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:43,440
heard about that brewer case and of

2814
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:44,800
course we feature

2815
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:47,760
that case quite well in the phenomenon

2816
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,800
so

2817
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:50,719
that makes me think that maybe he has

2818
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,080
watched it but i don't know

2819
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:54,719
well why don't you and i look why don't

2820
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,119
you and i will get the dvd

2821
01:52:03,030 --> 01:51:59,280
right let's go to his house at zuma

2822
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:03,040
beach and we just throw it over the gate

2823
01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:06,400
i've been there give him a blu-ray yeah

2824
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:08,560
just for him absolutely man we'll just

2825
01:52:11,830 --> 01:52:09,840
throw it over the fence

2826
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:11,840
there's no guard gate there we can drive

2827
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:13,040
right up

2828
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:15,920
but uh i was gonna i had a mutual friend

2829
01:52:17,830 --> 01:52:16,239
of

2830
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:17,840
we we had a mutual we have a mutual

2831
01:52:20,870 --> 01:52:19,440
friend in common then

2832
01:52:23,030 --> 01:52:20,880
i think it was his dad that died

2833
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:23,040
recently maybe it was late maybe

2834
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:25,280
probably last year so that was kind of

2835
01:52:28,149 --> 01:52:27,199
you know a tough time to approach him on

2836
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,159
anything

2837
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,560
so but yeah i might i might i'll work on

2838
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:32,000
it i i will i'll

2839
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,040
i'll work on it the uh the

2840
01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:37,679
some of the other breaking uh stories

2841
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:38,080
that

2842
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:40,239
have uh surfaced over the last few weeks

2843
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:42,320
and i know you've been on vacation

2844
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:45,199
and probably a little disconnected but

2845
01:52:47,430 --> 01:52:45,520
uh

2846
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:47,440
i'm gonna throw this out there maybe

2847
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:48,560
you've heard about it but

2848
01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:51,840
uh lou elizondo on this program

2849
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,880
and uh last week

2850
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:57,040
and also we did a live event over the

2851
01:53:02,310 --> 01:52:59,360
weekend and i did a two hour

2852
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:02,320
uh sit down with lou so i've done a

2853
01:53:07,109 --> 01:53:03,760
couple of uh

2854
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:07,119
uh shows with him over the last week and

2855
01:53:13,750 --> 01:53:10,320
he is talking about

2856
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:13,760
a 23 minute

2857
01:53:20,950 --> 01:53:17,760
ufo video his words and

2858
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:20,960
that is crystal clear and definitive

2859
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:23,119
23 minutes have you heard about this

2860
01:53:28,149 --> 01:53:25,040
video

2861
01:53:29,669 --> 01:53:28,159
well first of all i love lou and and uh

2862
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:29,679
it's funny actually because i

2863
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:32,960
i spent time with him uh in in wyoming

2864
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:36,080
um it was a wonderful wonderful just

2865
01:53:40,070 --> 01:53:38,560
magical time with him i just so much

2866
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:40,080
respect for that man

2867
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,920
and see i saw personally what he's been

2868
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:43,199
going through

2869
01:53:46,550 --> 01:53:44,320
and getting this whole thing out and the

2870
01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:46,560
compromise he's made with his family and

2871
01:53:50,550 --> 01:53:48,639
his financial security and

2872
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:50,560
his wife like i talked to his wife about

2873
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:51,920
the things that he's been going through

2874
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:52,480
and being

2875
01:53:57,109 --> 01:53:55,280
judged and called a charlatan and it's

2876
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:57,119
like he's like i'm risking everything i

2877
01:54:00,629 --> 01:53:58,239
quit my job

2878
01:54:01,270 --> 01:54:00,639
my financial security for my family

2879
01:54:02,709 --> 01:54:01,280
every and

2880
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:02,719
i'm getting all this criticism he's like

2881
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:04,960
is it even worth it like do people even

2882
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:06,400
care that i'm

2883
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:08,719
making all these sacrifices you know the

2884
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:10,719
guy is just like amazing i mean i saw it

2885
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:12,560
firsthand i hung out with him

2886
01:54:16,950 --> 01:54:14,880
i went to his house it's like but he had

2887
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:16,960
told me about

2888
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:19,040
you know some of the things not in great

2889
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:20,719
detail obviously because it's classified

2890
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,360
but

2891
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:23,520
some of the great things that he you

2892
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:24,880
know saw

2893
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,920
as part of atip at the pentagon that

2894
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:29,840
uh you know he basically looked at me

2895
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:32,239
and well just imagine crystal clear

2896
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:35,360
totally in focus very long you know

2897
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:36,960
that's the kind of stuff i'm like oh my

2898
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:38,480
god what's it gonna take to get this

2899
01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:39,520
stuff out of there

2900
01:54:43,270 --> 01:54:42,000
you know because i've heard it from lots

2901
01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:43,280
of other people too

2902
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,119
you know remember i've been hearing this

2903
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:47,280
for a while i mean i've interviewed

2904
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:49,440
uh mercury astronaut gordon cooper told

2905
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:50,560
me about the footage of a

2906
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:52,719
landed flying saucer on the dry lake bed

2907
01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:54,159
at edwards air force base

2908
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:56,639
circa 1957 when i interviewed him in the

2909
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:57,440
90s like

2910
01:55:00,550 --> 01:54:59,520
so i know that the government's been in

2911
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,560
possession

2912
01:55:04,149 --> 01:55:02,320
of the videos that people like neil

2913
01:55:04,709 --> 01:55:04,159
degrasse tyson will stop making fun of

2914
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:04,719
right

2915
01:55:09,669 --> 01:55:08,320
so it doesn't surprise me that he's

2916
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:09,679
talking about that now because i have

2917
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:10,960
been to his house and

2918
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,080
he did share you know cautiously uh

2919
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:15,920
indicate that there were some things

2920
01:55:20,149 --> 01:55:16,960
that were

2921
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:20,159
very compelling very clear

2922
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:21,840
and focused and all that stuff

2923
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:23,599
everything that we want

2924
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:27,119
the um uh the disclosure

2925
01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:30,159
of this where i i

2926
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:32,000
i want to see them you want to see

2927
01:55:36,229 --> 01:55:33,199
everybody wants to

2928
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:36,239
see them but what's the danger uh

2929
01:55:40,709 --> 01:55:38,960
for the government uh the repercussions

2930
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:40,719
if they reveal

2931
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:43,520
uh knowledge that goes back 20 30 40

2932
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:44,320
years

2933
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,400
you know my my comment is if they

2934
01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:47,679
release a video

2935
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:50,880
it better be taken yesterday because if

2936
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:51,440
they

2937
01:55:55,750 --> 01:55:54,000
are sitting on stuff uh that goes back

2938
01:55:58,149 --> 01:55:55,760
20 30 40 years

2939
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:58,159
and that leaks that is going to show to

2940
01:56:02,950 --> 01:55:59,599
everybody that

2941
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:02,960
um they probably have been

2942
01:56:07,589 --> 01:56:05,599
in possession of technology that really

2943
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:07,599
could have helped this planet

2944
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:10,480
right feed people and electricity and

2945
01:56:15,270 --> 01:56:10,800
and

2946
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:15,280
i think that

2947
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:18,560
uh would anger uh quite you know

2948
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:21,440
potentially billions of people well yeah

2949
01:56:24,310 --> 01:56:22,080
i mean i've

2950
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:24,320
been hearing about it you know for for

2951
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,280
for decades

2952
01:56:28,870 --> 01:56:26,960
and that's been incredibly frustrating

2953
01:56:30,629 --> 01:56:28,880
you hear about you know you interview a

2954
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:30,639
witness who's the military witness that

2955
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:31,440
says like

2956
01:56:35,510 --> 01:56:33,280
i personally hated this footage i saw it

2957
01:56:36,310 --> 01:56:35,520
i handled it you know it disappeared

2958
01:56:37,669 --> 01:56:36,320
it's like

2959
01:56:39,669 --> 01:56:37,679
that's the kind of stuff that everyone's

2960
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:39,679
complaining that's missing and

2961
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:42,960
and that stuff has a strange way of

2962
01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:46,000
going missing you know what i mean um

2963
01:56:51,270 --> 01:56:49,599
but i did hear of

2964
01:56:53,589 --> 01:56:51,280
from somebody who saw it who will remain

2965
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:53,599
nameless but who saw it

2966
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:55,360
knows it exists and he described it to

2967
01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:57,280
me and he said it was a triangular

2968
01:57:00,629 --> 01:56:59,119
shaped craft

2969
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,639
i believe he said it was a video but it

2970
01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:02,159
could be a photograph of a

2971
01:57:06,149 --> 01:57:03,360
triangular shaped craft coming out of

2972
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:06,159
the ocean and it went from sea level to

2973
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:08,000
80 000 feet like in the blink of an eye

2974
01:57:11,189 --> 01:57:09,199
vertically straight up

2975
01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:11,199
but it was shaped like a triangle and

2976
01:57:13,830 --> 01:57:13,040
then we have a crystal clear picture or

2977
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:13,840
video

2978
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,599
i believe he said picture but it could

2979
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:17,440
have been a video and that there

2980
01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:19,840
and that he had personally seen it and

2981
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:21,199
they were desperately trying to get

2982
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:22,880
that released as well and it's

2983
01:57:27,589 --> 01:57:24,480
interesting it's like

2984
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:27,599
okay so they found some loopholes and

2985
01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:29,360
snuck some of the stuff out

2986
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:32,239
have you noticed that the stuff that's

2987
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:33,679
out

2988
01:57:38,310 --> 01:57:36,800
didn't get officially released it got

2989
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:38,320
officially acknowledged once

2990
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:41,520
it was released but you remember chris

2991
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:43,440
admits i got a phone call from leslie

2992
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:45,520
kane when when she watched the screen of

2993
01:57:49,189 --> 01:57:46,960
the movie and she went

2994
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:49,199
uh chris revealed that he was

2995
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:50,400
responsible for

2996
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:54,000
getting that footage out of the pentagon

2997
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:56,080
i was like yeah she goes he doesn't talk

2998
01:58:00,229 --> 01:57:57,920
about that normally

2999
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,239
he revealed it in the phenomenon right

3000
01:58:03,189 --> 01:58:01,840
but he's basically like yeah we bet the

3001
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:03,199
rules a little bit we found a loophole

3002
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,080
we got it out

3003
01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:06,080
jeremy corbell has gotten hold of some

3004
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:07,199
some footage through some of his

3005
01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:08,239
contacts

3006
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:09,520
and they've acknowledged that it's

3007
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:12,400
official footage but they haven't

3008
01:58:17,270 --> 01:58:15,679
taken the steps of them personally

3009
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,280
making the effort and release you know i

3010
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:18,719
mean so it's like

3011
01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:21,199
we find ways to find loopholes to get it

3012
01:58:23,990 --> 01:58:21,840
out

3013
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:24,000
legally or illegally and yet and then

3014
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,520
they confirm and kind of play catch-up

3015
01:58:28,629 --> 01:58:27,280
yes that's real yes it's a legit

3016
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,639
oh and by the way here's you know what i

3017
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:30,560
mean but it's like

3018
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:32,880
they haven't had the impetus of getting

3019
01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:34,639
ahead of it and and releasing it

3020
01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:36,560
so what will it take for the task force

3021
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:38,560
to do that like we've had to find it and

3022
01:58:43,589 --> 01:58:40,000
get it out there

3023
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:43,599
well it's a civilian yeah and but

3024
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:46,000
this is this is the big but with all of

3025
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:46,960
that

3026
01:58:53,669 --> 01:58:50,400
corbell

3027
01:58:55,109 --> 01:58:53,679
didn't show crap right and none of that

3028
01:58:57,830 --> 01:58:55,119
was definitive of

3029
01:58:58,229 --> 01:58:57,840
anything right now for the government to

3030
01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:58,239
say

3031
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:02,159
it's official it's real video well yeah

3032
01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:05,760
it's real video but it doesn't show

3033
01:59:09,510 --> 01:59:08,080
anything it doesn't show anything at all

3034
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:09,520
it could be anything

3035
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:12,560
um and so leaking that

3036
01:59:16,229 --> 01:59:14,480
and and getting it out there labeling it

3037
01:59:17,270 --> 01:59:16,239
whatever you want to label it you know

3038
01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:17,280
flying

3039
01:59:23,990 --> 01:59:20,880
whatever

3040
01:59:26,310 --> 01:59:24,000
but it doesn't it doesn't show anything

3041
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:26,320
you know this this other stuff the

3042
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:27,199
definitive

3043
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:29,520
the triangle coming out of the ocean

3044
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:31,599
we've we've heard the rumors of this

3045
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:35,520
certainly where is that photograph

3046
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:40,000
you know where where i i would love

3047
01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:43,679
nothing more than to

3048
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:45,440
figure out a way obviously i know that

3049
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:47,280
everybody else would as well

3050
01:59:50,390 --> 01:59:50,000
but obviously you know i'm not gonna

3051
01:59:53,189 --> 01:59:50,400
there

3052
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:53,199
announcement by the way i don't know

3053
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,800
just get you got to give me a minute let

3054
01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:56,159
me know because i've got a kind of an

3055
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:57,520
exciting announcement i think it's

3056
01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:58,400
exciting

3057
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:59,840
your audience might not feel it's

3058
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exciting but i think it's pretty

3059
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exciting

3060
02:00:07,669 --> 02:00:05,599
but but let me say that there was a um

3061
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:07,679
a film that was done in the 70s called

3062
02:00:13,030 --> 02:00:09,760
ufos past present or future

3063
02:00:14,229 --> 02:00:13,040
yep it was alan sandler and bob eminator

3064
02:00:16,550 --> 02:00:14,239
robert emeneger yep

3065
02:00:18,470 --> 02:00:16,560
robert emeneger unfortunately passed i

3066
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:18,480
think six months ago yeah something like

3067
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that

3068
02:00:22,550 --> 02:00:20,719
i got an extensive interview with him on

3069
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:22,560
camera uh

3070
02:00:26,070 --> 02:00:24,320
for the phenomena nev unfortunately

3071
02:00:26,950 --> 02:00:26,080
didn't make it into it but what i was

3072
02:00:30,870 --> 02:00:26,960
trying to find

3073
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:30,880
was they had talked about a landing case

3074
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in the film

3075
02:00:38,070 --> 02:00:34,960
at holman air force base and i think

3076
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:38,080
it was right around the time of socorro

3077
02:00:41,830 --> 02:00:40,159
and socorro was the stone's throw

3078
02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:41,840
socorro was the case involving the

3079
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police officer in 1964 in sakura new

3080
02:00:47,589 --> 02:00:45,440
mexico

3081
02:00:49,030 --> 02:00:47,599
uh lani zamora and it was a one of the

3082
02:00:50,709 --> 02:00:49,040
most well documented

3083
02:00:52,709 --> 02:00:50,719
close encounters of the third kind in

3084
02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:52,719
u.s history the military was on the

3085
02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:54,480
scene it was investigated by blue book

3086
02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:55,760
it was a kind of a turning point for

3087
02:00:59,910 --> 02:00:58,080
heineken but in any case just a stone's

3088
02:01:02,390 --> 02:00:59,920
throw away holloman air force base white

3089
02:01:03,350 --> 02:01:02,400
sands testing range um there was a

3090
02:01:06,310 --> 02:01:03,360
report of

3091
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:06,320
a lane there that was filmed speaking of

3092
02:01:09,350 --> 02:01:07,199
evidence

3093
02:01:10,870 --> 02:01:09,360
well let's uh okay so let's i've got to

3094
02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:10,880
take a break

3095
02:01:15,510 --> 02:01:12,960
and when we come back we'll we'll pick

3096
02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:15,520
up with bob emeneger uh

3097
02:01:19,109 --> 02:01:17,599
the ufo's past president and future i've

3098
02:01:22,310 --> 02:01:19,119
watched that thing

3099
02:01:24,550 --> 02:01:22,320
30 40 times uh yeah it's still an

3100
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amazing film and what a great backstory

3101
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3214
02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:15,599
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3215
02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:18,159
jimmy church tonight james fox

3216
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:21,199
takes his ufo victory lap

3217
02:06:25,109 --> 02:06:23,520
well deserved well deserved great

3218
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:25,119
conversation tonight

3219
02:06:29,750 --> 02:06:27,440
and right before the break james i'm

3220
02:06:31,910 --> 02:06:29,760
going to do a reset

3221
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:31,920
something that the folks over 60 minutes

3222
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:33,360
uh could learn because

3223
02:06:37,270 --> 02:06:35,920
we're talking about the the great ufo

3224
02:06:40,390 --> 02:06:37,280
documentary

3225
02:06:43,030 --> 02:06:40,400
that uh bob evan

3226
02:06:43,669 --> 02:06:43,040
is this is the thing about about bob

3227
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:43,679
james

3228
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:46,960
that he went on

3229
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:50,560
he went on an easter egg hunt right

3230
02:06:57,109 --> 02:06:53,599
of of epic biblical

3231
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:57,119
proportions um and i know i'm hoping

3232
02:07:01,830 --> 02:06:58,560
that what you're going to talk about

3233
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:01,840
is this reel of film and

3234
02:07:07,109 --> 02:07:05,040
that bob was promised uh i believe this

3235
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:07,119
this came from the white house

3236
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:11,360
if if if i'm if i'm if i'm right here

3237
02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:14,800
that this film was going to this reel of

3238
02:07:19,589 --> 02:07:16,000
film was going to be

3239
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:19,599
included um in ufos past present and

3240
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:20,880
future and oh

3241
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:23,760
there's a little side note to this um

3242
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:25,280
many many years ago

3243
02:07:32,149 --> 02:07:28,480
uh james and i were talking about bob

3244
02:07:33,350 --> 02:07:32,159
and i had said uh i got to get bob on

3245
02:07:35,910 --> 02:07:33,360
the show

3246
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:35,920
and and we were going to put that

3247
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:37,520
together james you were going to help me

3248
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,960
with that and then

3249
02:07:42,629 --> 02:07:41,199
you know things you know get sideways

3250
02:07:44,310 --> 02:07:42,639
you're in the middle of making movies

3251
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:44,320
i'm doing my stuff and

3252
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:46,719
and we let it get away from us and now

3253
02:07:49,830 --> 02:07:48,000
uh bob

3254
02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:49,840
bob has gone on to bigger and better

3255
02:07:52,629 --> 02:07:51,760
things and i never got a chance to

3256
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:52,639
interview bob

3257
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:55,199
emeniger one of the uh one of the

3258
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:58,079
crucial components in ufo history

3259
02:08:02,069 --> 02:08:00,079
um so but going back that's a little

3260
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:02,079
side note to to all of this going back

3261
02:08:08,390 --> 02:08:02,480
to

3262
02:08:09,270 --> 02:08:08,400
this documentary ufo's past present and

3263
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:09,280
future which

3264
02:08:13,109 --> 02:08:11,840
again is a it should be on everybody's

3265
02:08:16,229 --> 02:08:13,119
watch list

3266
02:08:17,990 --> 02:08:16,239
um and the chasing of this you know it's

3267
02:08:21,350 --> 02:08:18,000
like chasing a snuff film

3268
02:08:24,550 --> 02:08:21,360
right yeah yeah it's exactly

3269
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:24,560
um and and what he went through so uh

3270
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:25,199
continue

3271
02:08:28,390 --> 02:08:27,040
i'm hoping this is about that reel of

3272
02:08:32,069 --> 02:08:28,400
film

3273
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:32,079
it is so uh so i'm talking to bob about

3274
02:08:38,550 --> 02:08:36,400
a well angela joyner

3275
02:08:39,910 --> 02:08:38,560
bless your heart she didn't she got

3276
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:39,920
covered in past she was

3277
02:08:44,149 --> 02:08:42,960
a real pioneer in in in the old

3278
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:44,159
stephenville ufo

3279
02:08:47,669 --> 02:08:47,280
case certainly well angela yeah angela

3280
02:08:52,310 --> 02:08:47,679
had

3281
02:08:54,069 --> 02:08:52,320
in great detail because i'll just get to

3282
02:08:56,229 --> 02:08:54,079
the point here but angela had pointed

3283
02:08:59,750 --> 02:08:56,239
out the fact that

3284
02:09:03,030 --> 02:08:59,760
um one of the producers of that show

3285
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:03,040
alan sandler had

3286
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:05,280
footage and it all started out with like

3287
02:09:10,229 --> 02:09:06,480
a deathbed statement

3288
02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:10,239
by this guy colonel wine winebreader

3289
02:09:16,669 --> 02:09:14,000
and the during production

3290
02:09:18,629 --> 02:09:16,679
alan sandler and robert emeneger had

3291
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:18,639
unprecedented access to all these

3292
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:20,560
military bases

3293
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:24,400
and um and during

3294
02:09:29,030 --> 02:09:26,320
one of their visits for the filming of

3295
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:29,040
the dock they were at right path

3296
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:31,199
and that right pat they met with this

3297
02:09:35,510 --> 02:09:32,079
this

3298
02:09:40,550 --> 02:09:35,520
colonel weinbreder in his office

3299
02:09:43,589 --> 02:09:40,560
and robert emeneger walked up to him

3300
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:43,599
in his office and he said hey what about

3301
02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:46,320
what about roswell did we recover stuff

3302
02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:48,239
from roswell

3303
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:51,440
and robert goes

3304
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,440
he was so weird he just started to walk

3305
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:54,800
away from me

3306
02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:57,119
and he started talking about some

3307
02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:58,560
photographs of russian

3308
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:01,760
jets on the wall it was uh

3309
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:05,119
interesting and and a little bit

3310
02:10:09,510 --> 02:10:08,159
more to this um bob said he kind of

3311
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:09,520
freaked out

3312
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:12,800
um he bob freaks out because of

3313
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:16,079
what this colonel is suddenly doing like

3314
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,199
maybe they were listening right there

3315
02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:21,040
were microphones in his office that's

3316
02:10:27,189 --> 02:10:22,719
exactly what robert

3317
02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:27,199
concluded but so what happened was

3318
02:10:32,310 --> 02:10:31,280
30 40 years later colonel weinberger on

3319
02:10:35,430 --> 02:10:32,320
his deathbed

3320
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:35,440
and he tells this nurse hey you got to

3321
02:10:39,910 --> 02:10:37,040
get this message to

3322
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:39,920
this guy robert emeneger she's like what

3323
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,280
and he says

3324
02:10:45,430 --> 02:10:43,440
tell him that you know basically some

3325
02:10:46,950 --> 02:10:45,440
crashes occurred or something like this

3326
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:46,960
basically answers the question that he'd

3327
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:48,800
asked 40 years earlier

3328
02:10:51,910 --> 02:10:50,480
so anyway so i'm going so i'm kind of

3329
02:10:55,189 --> 02:10:51,920
looking into this deathbed

3330
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:55,199
confession thing here and uh and angela

3331
02:10:58,870 --> 02:10:56,719
says oh you're investigating that case

3332
02:11:01,109 --> 02:10:58,880
she goes oh i looked into that too

3333
02:11:02,069 --> 02:11:01,119
alan sandler who's one of the producers

3334
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:02,079
of the show

3335
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:05,199
is sitting on ufo footage

3336
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,199
and i said how do you know she said i

3337
02:11:10,629 --> 02:11:08,480
know he is

3338
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:10,639
i know it i said well i i just happen to

3339
02:11:13,510 --> 02:11:12,400
be talking to them right now on this

3340
02:11:15,350 --> 02:11:13,520
on this thing that you know this

3341
02:11:16,229 --> 02:11:15,360
experience that robert had she goes will

3342
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:16,239
you talk to

3343
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:18,880
alan sandler about sandler about it so

3344
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:20,159
anyway so

3345
02:11:25,030 --> 02:11:23,679
i give alan a call and we're talking

3346
02:11:26,629 --> 02:11:25,040
and he said before i talk to you at all

3347
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:26,639
you need to go and watch and read my

3348
02:11:31,189 --> 02:11:27,760
book

3349
02:11:32,709 --> 02:11:31,199
talking and

3350
02:11:35,270 --> 02:11:32,719
all this is going down i'm talking with

3351
02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:35,280
robert you know eminem and i said robert

3352
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:36,880
what that footage that you guys talk

3353
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:38,800
about in the film

3354
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:40,880
that it may have happened or it might

3355
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:42,159
have happened already or it may happen

3356
02:11:44,709 --> 02:11:42,960
in the future

3357
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:44,719
about a landing at holmen air force base

3358
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:46,639
in which case the flying saucer

3359
02:11:50,229 --> 02:11:49,040
door opens and out comes these aliens

3360
02:11:53,510 --> 02:11:50,239
that make contact with

3361
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:53,520
with the base commanders and he said oh

3362
02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:55,119
you know robert's like and robert's a

3363
02:11:58,229 --> 02:11:56,560
credible guy

3364
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:58,239
and he's like you know i think that

3365
02:12:01,990 --> 02:12:00,239
happened i said you think it happened

3366
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:02,000
what do you mean you think it happened

3367
02:12:06,870 --> 02:12:05,119
he said well our contact paul charles

3368
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:06,880
at norton air force base handled the

3369
02:12:10,950 --> 02:12:08,560
footage

3370
02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:10,960
and i said really and he said yeah he

3371
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:12,960
swore up and down it was not it was not

3372
02:12:16,629 --> 02:12:15,679
it was not from us we filmed a landing

3373
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:16,639
of a disk

3374
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:18,560
i'm thinking to myself boy this sounds

3375
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:20,960
crazy but i'm investigating socorro

3376
02:12:24,149 --> 02:12:22,960
so corals was a stone's throw right

3377
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:24,159
around the same period

3378
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:25,360
and that was a close encounter of the

3379
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:27,199
third kind and if it happened at the

3380
02:12:31,270 --> 02:12:29,280
base maybe they did have cameras rolling

3381
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:31,280
so maybe it really did happen so anyway

3382
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:33,520
so i'm talking alan sandler about this

3383
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:36,079
and he's a lot more he's he's odd he's

3384
02:12:39,109 --> 02:12:37,119
an odd duck

3385
02:12:41,189 --> 02:12:39,119
i think stanton freeman told me that

3386
02:12:42,629 --> 02:12:41,199
allen had connections to the cia

3387
02:12:44,550 --> 02:12:42,639
that's what stanton told me because when

3388
02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:44,560
stanton got paid for some appearance he

3389
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,040
did

3390
02:12:49,350 --> 02:12:47,760
with alan it came from a known cia sort

3391
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,360
that's what stanton told me

3392
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:51,440
stanton's not a paranoid guy he's a very

3393
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:53,040
grounded pragmatic you know

3394
02:12:56,790 --> 02:12:56,400
data-driven scientist so i i listened to

3395
02:12:59,510 --> 02:12:56,800
stan

3396
02:13:01,430 --> 02:12:59,520
anyway so i'm talking to alan sandler

3397
02:13:02,950 --> 02:13:01,440
and i'll never forget this i'm driving

3398
02:13:04,629 --> 02:13:02,960
in my car talking to the cell phone

3399
02:13:06,790 --> 02:13:04,639
about this footage and he goes oh i saw

3400
02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:06,800
it i said well wait a minute

3401
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:09,599
what allen says yeah i saw it paul

3402
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:11,280
charles showed it to me

3403
02:13:14,310 --> 02:13:12,960
i said well hold on a second i pulled

3404
02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:14,320
the car on the side of the road i was in

3405
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:16,560
simpson beach

3406
02:13:20,069 --> 02:13:18,159
and i closed my eyes because i do that

3407
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:20,079
when i really want to remember something

3408
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:21,679
i listen to i have the words recreate in

3409
02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:23,440
my head i close by

3410
02:13:27,189 --> 02:13:25,360
excuse me alan what are you saying

3411
02:13:28,830 --> 02:13:27,199
exactly he said paul

3412
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:28,840
charles showed me the landing footage at

3413
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:30,480
holmen

3414
02:13:36,390 --> 02:13:34,159
i said okay yes yeah

3415
02:13:37,270 --> 02:13:36,400
i swear to god i said oh okay well tell

3416
02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:37,280
me more

3417
02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:40,000
so i cl like i said i had my eyes closed

3418
02:13:43,109 --> 02:13:41,760
i had the engine off i'm sitting

3419
02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:43,119
like in some weird i just pulled the

3420
02:13:46,950 --> 02:13:44,880
hell over

3421
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:46,960
stand in the car and i said what did you

3422
02:13:50,629 --> 02:13:48,000
see

3423
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:50,639
he said well he showed it to me when

3424
02:13:54,390 --> 02:13:52,079
robert wasn't there that day

3425
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:54,400
filming at i believe it was norton air

3426
02:13:59,430 --> 02:13:56,239
force base in california

3427
02:14:03,030 --> 02:13:59,440
and he played this thing for me and um

3428
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:03,040
he said you saw three disc

3429
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:05,520
shaped objects up in the sky from the

3430
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:07,440
filming from the ground

3431
02:14:12,149 --> 02:14:10,239
up up in the sky three of them and

3432
02:14:15,510 --> 02:14:12,159
they're flying

3433
02:14:18,390 --> 02:14:15,520
towards the base and he

3434
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:18,400
said there was a jets escorting them so

3435
02:14:20,950 --> 02:14:18,880
there were

3436
02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:20,960
military jets flying along with them and

3437
02:14:25,750 --> 02:14:22,400
then two of the disks

3438
02:14:28,069 --> 02:14:25,760
peel away and one

3439
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:28,079
wobbles down onto the base and he said i

3440
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:29,280
said what do you mean by wobbling he

3441
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:30,719
said well

3442
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:32,880
it looked like it was either in trouble

3443
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:34,960
or it looked like a leaf

3444
02:14:40,149 --> 02:14:38,400
that was descending on its own with just

3445
02:14:41,350 --> 02:14:40,159
the gravity and wind right so it's just

3446
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:41,360
kind of coming down

3447
02:14:44,629 --> 02:14:43,040
wobbling kind of back and forth that's

3448
02:14:47,430 --> 02:14:44,639
what he described like

3449
02:14:48,790 --> 02:14:47,440
he said then it landed landing gear came

3450
02:14:51,350 --> 02:14:48,800
out and it landed

3451
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:51,360
and then he said and i'll quote just

3452
02:14:55,030 --> 02:14:53,280
like in a sci-fi movie

3453
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:55,040
a door open but it was seamless there

3454
02:14:59,270 --> 02:14:56,480
were no seams it just

3455
02:15:02,470 --> 02:14:59,280
opened and destroyed and and i think he

3456
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,480
said a staircase came out

3457
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:05,760
two beans got out

3458
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:08,320
and they were wearing this is again this

3459
02:15:12,149 --> 02:15:09,920
is what alan sandler told me

3460
02:15:13,669 --> 02:15:12,159
he saw it i said was the camera on

3461
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:13,679
sticks he said yes that means they're

3462
02:15:16,550 --> 02:15:14,560
anticipating

3463
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:16,560
that means their camera was on a tripod

3464
02:15:19,030 --> 02:15:17,679
so it was steady

3465
02:15:20,870 --> 02:15:19,040
so they know this thing was coming in

3466
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:20,880
why would they have a camera

3467
02:15:25,030 --> 02:15:23,679
on the grounds of the base on a tripod

3468
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,040
you have to be ready to film

3469
02:15:28,470 --> 02:15:27,119
if you've got a tripod ready right right

3470
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:28,480
so they're filming this thing

3471
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:29,840
and it's sitting on the ground and two

3472
02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:31,840
beams come out and they flank the

3473
02:15:38,870 --> 02:15:34,320
staircase and then a third one comes out

3474
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:38,880
and he had like a large very large nose

3475
02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:42,000
tight-fitting suit on um

3476
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:44,639
he said he had like a thing in his hand

3477
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:45,520
that he assumed

3478
02:15:49,030 --> 02:15:47,119
that he didn't know but he assumed it

3479
02:15:50,790 --> 02:15:49,040
was some sort of communication device

3480
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:50,800
translator whatever little slits for

3481
02:15:54,229 --> 02:15:52,560
mouths and i believe he said the eyes

3482
02:15:56,629 --> 02:15:54,239
were vertical like cats

3483
02:15:58,470 --> 02:15:56,639
and he had a big hair regularly on allen

3484
02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:58,480
swore up and down he saw this now allen

3485
02:16:02,310 --> 02:15:59,199
said

3486
02:16:05,350 --> 02:16:02,320
i think it was um

3487
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,360
i think it was a it was a a like

3488
02:16:09,589 --> 02:16:07,760
a special effect and that was one of our

3489
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:09,599
own flying saucers

3490
02:16:13,589 --> 02:16:11,760
you know we it was the flying saucer was

3491
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:13,599
real it landed but i think

3492
02:16:17,109 --> 02:16:15,599
there are people dressed up or something

3493
02:16:17,910 --> 02:16:17,119
and i said well wait a minute the flying

3494
02:16:19,830 --> 02:16:17,920
saucers

3495
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:19,840
yeah probably one of our flying sausages

3496
02:16:23,510 --> 02:16:21,280
well in any case

3497
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:23,520
allen didn't really know but he just was

3498
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:25,199
like kind of neutral about the whole

3499
02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:25,920
thing

3500
02:16:31,109 --> 02:16:29,119
but i spoke at length with robert

3501
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:31,119
emeneger on camera which i have that

3502
02:16:35,509 --> 02:16:33,040
interview i have

3503
02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:35,519
recordings that i did with alan sandler

3504
02:16:38,230 --> 02:16:36,960
he probably is listening to me right now

3505
02:16:40,950 --> 02:16:38,240
knowing that guy

3506
02:16:42,950 --> 02:16:40,960
on audio of him talking of audio only of

3507
02:16:44,870 --> 02:16:42,960
him talking about him seeing the footage

3508
02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:44,880
and then i have an extension extended

3509
02:16:48,709 --> 02:16:46,639
interview i did with william coleman

3510
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,719
william coleman i believe at the time in

3511
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:50,319
the 70s during production

3512
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:51,840
was at the pentagon he was public

3513
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:53,439
spokesman spokesman

3514
02:16:56,549 --> 02:16:55,280
he was colonel coleman and i have

3515
02:16:57,270 --> 02:16:56,559
interviews with colonel coleman because

3516
02:16:59,030 --> 02:16:57,280
apparently

3517
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:59,040
colonel coleman is the one that called

3518
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:01,359
all the different military bases

3519
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:03,679
and said this team is filming a dock

3520
02:17:07,349 --> 02:17:05,200
cooperate with them

3521
02:17:08,790 --> 02:17:07,359
and so when paul charles got that

3522
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:08,800
message he just assumed that everything

3523
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:09,760
was open

3524
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:11,840
when paul charles showed that footage to

3525
02:17:15,270 --> 02:17:13,040
alan sandler

3526
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:15,280
the very next day they put the clamps

3527
02:17:19,669 --> 02:17:17,840
down that footage disappeared

3528
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:19,679
and they were ordered never to talk

3529
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:21,679
about it ever again so allen didn't even

3530
02:17:25,990 --> 02:17:23,280
tell robert emeneger

3531
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:26,000
for 40 years and that he'd seen the

3532
02:17:30,870 --> 02:17:28,000
footage and eminence told me that

3533
02:17:32,309 --> 02:17:30,880
alan that that paul charles who ended up

3534
02:17:33,910 --> 02:17:32,319
getting killed in a head-on collision

3535
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:33,920
with his wife in the 80s

3536
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:36,800
uh in a car um swore up and down that

3537
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:38,000
footage was was

3538
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:40,240
legitimate and it was not of this earth

3539
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:41,519
that that was

3540
02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:43,359
there were beans from another world so

3541
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:45,439
that's like

3542
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:48,559
so alan who's now in his 80s

3543
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:51,040
has promised me in the past a he's got

3544
02:17:53,429 --> 02:17:52,479
some other footage in his promises he

3545
02:17:55,349 --> 02:17:53,439
would share

3546
02:17:56,950 --> 02:17:55,359
and then they and then i got the money

3547
02:17:58,150 --> 02:17:56,960
together and then he's got cold feet or

3548
02:18:00,469 --> 02:17:58,160
whatever happened

3549
02:18:01,830 --> 02:18:00,479
but he promised me that that we could go

3550
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:01,840
after some of that footage

3551
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:03,840
but every time i like reach out to him

3552
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:05,200
he always makes some excuse about how

3553
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:06,000
he's so busy

3554
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:07,679
but he's in his 80s now so i'm worried

3555
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:09,040
like this guy's gonna

3556
02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:10,639
you know i've been trying to get

3557
02:18:15,429 --> 02:18:12,240
somebody to go

3558
02:18:17,030 --> 02:18:15,439
meet with him and because he says i kind

3559
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:17,040
of know where this stuff is

3560
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,880
you have to know where it is to get

3561
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:21,040
access to it within the pentagon

3562
02:18:24,309 --> 02:18:23,359
but it's there but you'll never find it

3563
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:24,319
unless you know

3564
02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:27,280
where to look so i'm like okay well help

3565
02:18:30,469 --> 02:18:29,040
me look for it you know

3566
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:30,479
and so i've been i've been kind of

3567
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:31,760
quietly going after but you know you

3568
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:33,760
only have

3569
02:18:38,549 --> 02:18:37,120
so much time and energy and reso you

3570
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:38,559
know what i mean like

3571
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:41,120
jesus can i chase this until i die

3572
02:18:44,389 --> 02:18:42,800
probably

3573
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:44,399
is there you know is there a chance that

3574
02:18:48,469 --> 02:18:46,719
he said well i'm convinced it exists

3575
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:48,479
that i definitely tell your audience

3576
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:49,920
right now that it's of

3577
02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:52,800
alien origin no but i can tell you it's

3578
02:18:55,589 --> 02:18:54,160
extremely compelling

3579
02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:55,599
and i didn't believe it when i first

3580
02:18:59,669 --> 02:18:58,080
heard about it but after extensive talks

3581
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:59,679
with alan sandler and and robert

3582
02:19:02,629 --> 02:19:00,479
emeneger

3583
02:19:04,070 --> 02:19:02,639
and hearing actually robert amenger sent

3584
02:19:05,589 --> 02:19:04,080
me a clip of paul charles being

3585
02:19:08,629 --> 02:19:05,599
interviewed on a tv show

3586
02:19:10,230 --> 02:19:08,639
in the early 80s and he says

3587
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,240
unequivocally this is not

3588
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:12,800
this footage he got and he processed it

3589
02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:13,439
was not

3590
02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:16,639
of this world now did you know

3591
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:20,000
did bob so bob emeneger never

3592
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:22,960
saw the footage nope bob edmunder never

3593
02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:24,719
saw it he never knew that alan sandler

3594
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:25,359
saw it

3595
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:28,080
he found out because i told him you know

3596
02:19:30,870 --> 02:19:28,639
where i got

3597
02:19:32,469 --> 02:19:30,880
in fact i got a three-way call which

3598
02:19:33,429 --> 02:19:32,479
might be recorded actually i got a

3599
02:19:35,669 --> 02:19:33,439
three-way call

3600
02:19:37,429 --> 02:19:35,679
while i was in florida with having after

3601
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:37,439
i'd filmed with colonel coleman

3602
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:40,479
colonel coleman is now deceased but i i

3603
02:19:47,030 --> 02:19:44,160
called colonel coleman

3604
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:47,040
when sorry i was with colonel coleman in

3605
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:47,679
florida

3606
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:49,120
at a restaurant on the way to the

3607
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,120
restaurant when i called robert

3608
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:53,120
uh emeneger and we had a three-week

3609
02:19:56,550 --> 02:19:54,240
conversation about it

3610
02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:56,560
and i also called alan sandler about it

3611
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:58,319
with robert emeniger so i've talked

3612
02:20:01,510 --> 02:19:58,800
about it

3613
02:20:01,990 --> 02:20:01,520
and then i drilled colonel coleman about

3614
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:02,000
it

3615
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:04,000
and colonel coleman because he was given

3616
02:20:06,710 --> 02:20:05,040
the go-ahead

3617
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:06,720
he would call these bases and say

3618
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:08,080
cooperate with these guys

3619
02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:09,840
they're doing this documentary work with

3620
02:20:12,870 --> 02:20:11,600
them you know they had this incredible

3621
02:20:14,710 --> 02:20:12,880
access i mean that was

3622
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:14,720
if you look at that movie you look at

3623
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:16,319
what they're doing that was in the 70s

3624
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,000
that was remarkable yeah walking around

3625
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:20,399
the pentagon and and and all of that

3626
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:21,760
stuff is pretty incredible

3627
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:23,359
yeah yeah it's pretty incredible totally

3628
02:20:28,150 --> 02:20:25,040
totally incredible now

3629
02:20:31,670 --> 02:20:28,160
um but let me go back uh uh

3630
02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:31,680
uh to alan uh sandler for a second

3631
02:20:36,389 --> 02:20:34,880
so he's the one that has seen the

3632
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:36,399
footage

3633
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:39,760
and he thought yes now he says a couple

3634
02:20:42,469 --> 02:20:40,160
of

3635
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:42,479
interesting things to you i want to

3636
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:44,240
expand on we only have a few minutes

3637
02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:46,240
uh before we're done and i have to make

3638
02:20:50,230 --> 02:20:48,319
an announcement i just need 30 seconds

3639
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:50,240
so just don't let me forget okay all

3640
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:52,000
right hold on let me write that down

3641
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:54,160
announcement 30 seconds that's all you

3642
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:55,520
get james

3643
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:58,080
okay okay good third i'll make the most

3644
02:21:03,270 --> 02:20:59,439
of it

3645
02:21:07,270 --> 02:21:03,280
is 25 seconds but he said that

3646
02:21:10,230 --> 02:21:07,280
the craft landed um

3647
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:10,240
you know okay so here we have this

3648
02:21:16,630 --> 02:21:13,840
incredible moment but he says that

3649
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:16,640
maybe the craft was ours and he said and

3650
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:17,359
he mentioned

3651
02:21:24,950 --> 02:21:21,920
special effects now he's he knows

3652
02:21:27,349 --> 02:21:24,960
so yeah so he said that the film

3653
02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:27,359
was not manipulated in any way that it

3654
02:21:31,590 --> 02:21:29,520
was a legitimate ufo it was sorry it was

3655
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:31,600
a legitimate flying saucer

3656
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:33,200
and he said just like in the sci-fi

3657
02:21:36,469 --> 02:21:35,600
movies the door was seamless there were

3658
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:36,479
no scenes

3659
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,880
it just opened and he was shocked by

3660
02:21:41,830 --> 02:21:40,399
that like i could tell that would left

3661
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:41,840
an impression on him

3662
02:21:46,950 --> 02:21:45,280
and then i said so you saw

3663
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:46,960
aliens or beans but in the world he goes

3664
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:49,280
well it could have been a stage

3665
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:51,280
for an incident of something that that

3666
02:21:54,389 --> 02:21:52,319
may happen

3667
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:54,399
in the future like kind of a preparation

3668
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:55,840
video

3669
02:21:59,830 --> 02:21:58,240
but but that would imply that we were in

3670
02:22:02,550 --> 02:21:59,840
possession of flying saucers

3671
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:02,560
back in 1972 or 74 whatever year that

3672
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:03,520
was

3673
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,760
and um colonel coleman swore up and down

3674
02:22:08,790 --> 02:22:06,880
we did not have anything

3675
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:08,800
anything like that today nor do we have

3676
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:10,479
it back then period

3677
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:12,000
and colonel coleman himself had a

3678
02:22:13,990 --> 02:22:13,359
dramatic encounter with the flying

3679
02:22:16,630 --> 02:22:14,000
saucer

3680
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:16,640
back in 1955 over alabama which we

3681
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:17,200
feature

3682
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:19,120
run the film right colonel coleman was

3683
02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:21,280
just like and he kept saying stuff like

3684
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:22,160
oh

3685
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:23,840
colonel coleman i got a song i can have

3686
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:26,640
it all on video he's like oh

3687
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,080
we had a you know uh a stealth

3688
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:32,560
you know fighter land at the base we

3689
02:22:34,870 --> 02:22:33,359
kind of like no

3690
02:22:36,469 --> 02:22:34,880
i was like colonel coleman why do you

3691
02:22:37,510 --> 02:22:36,479
keep going to a stealth fighter i'm not

3692
02:22:39,110 --> 02:22:37,520
talking about that

3693
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:39,120
i'm talking about a flying saucer it's

3694
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:41,120
like you you're confusing the two i'm

3695
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:41,760
like

3696
02:22:45,910 --> 02:22:44,960
something because you're sitting there

3697
02:22:47,590 --> 02:22:45,920
on the one hand tell

3698
02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:47,600
i said this all on camera you're on the

3699
02:22:50,309 --> 02:22:48,960
one hand telling me that

3700
02:22:52,309 --> 02:22:50,319
you had this dramatic encounter with a

3701
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:52,319
flying saucer okay

3702
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:54,479
alan sandler said he saw the same flying

3703
02:22:57,910 --> 02:22:55,920
saucer that you saw

3704
02:23:00,070 --> 02:22:57,920
same description but on video that

3705
02:23:02,630 --> 02:23:00,080
landed at holman air force base

3706
02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:02,640
oh that was a self-fighter i'm like was

3707
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:04,880
the flying saucer that you saw in 1955

3708
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:06,800
a sulphide oh no no that was a flying

3709
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:08,160
saucer well

3710
02:23:11,590 --> 02:23:10,000
okay well what i'm trying to tell you is

3711
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:11,600
that the flying saucer

3712
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:13,520
that alan sandler described seeing on

3713
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:15,520
film wasn't fly oh we don't have any of

3714
02:23:17,590 --> 02:23:16,560
that technology

3715
02:23:19,670 --> 02:23:17,600
he was just kind of going around and

3716
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:19,680
around like that you know what i mean i

3717
02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:20,800
do

3718
02:23:24,550 --> 02:23:23,520
it's it's how frustrating is that and

3719
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:24,560
then and then

3720
02:23:27,670 --> 02:23:26,160
my camera guy looked at me and he goes

3721
02:23:29,910 --> 02:23:27,680
man you're hammering this guy he's like

3722
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:29,920
89 years old or maybe 90 years old

3723
02:23:33,590 --> 02:23:31,760
he's like lighten up like i was really

3724
02:23:35,110 --> 02:23:33,600
laying into him because i wanted to get

3725
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:35,120
a straight answer and he kept not giving

3726
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:36,560
me a straight answer

3727
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:39,600
you know but at the end of the day

3728
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:41,520
i couldn't tell you i can't i can tell

3729
02:23:46,070 --> 02:23:43,840
you this i believe

3730
02:23:47,670 --> 02:23:46,080
based on the video interview i've seen

3731
02:23:50,389 --> 02:23:47,680
with paul charles

3732
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:50,399
that that film and the interview i

3733
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:52,399
discussions i had non-public

3734
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:55,280
with alan sanders who saw it and my

3735
02:24:00,870 --> 02:23:56,479
interview with robert

3736
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:00,880
emeniger who spoke at length with alan

3737
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:03,040
sorry spoken link with with this guy

3738
02:24:05,510 --> 02:24:03,920
paul charles

3739
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:05,520
at norton air force base about the

3740
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:07,520
footage disappeared

3741
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,960
the it sounds like i don't i don't want

3742
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,000
to put words in

3743
02:24:15,349 --> 02:24:14,479
your mouth or allen's but it sounds like

3744
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:15,359
alan was

3745
02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:25,830
alan's weird he's an odd duck you know

3746
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:29,600
he's also sitting on footage

3747
02:24:33,429 --> 02:24:32,000
of a an atlas rocket launch at

3748
02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:33,439
vandenberg air force base

3749
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:35,680
the famous labeled top secret right that

3750
02:24:38,230 --> 02:24:37,439
was given well not the famous one this

3751
02:24:40,710 --> 02:24:38,240
one was

3752
02:24:41,349 --> 02:24:40,720
didn't fire it didn't it fired out of

3753
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:41,359
the sky

3754
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:43,040
but they didn't fire anything at it but

3755
02:24:47,110 --> 02:24:45,280
they i think it was a couple of

3756
02:24:49,030 --> 02:24:47,120
disc shaped objects that circled the

3757
02:24:50,469 --> 02:24:49,040
thing right as it flew from two

3758
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:50,479
different camera angles

3759
02:24:54,710 --> 02:24:53,439
and it was given to him by quintanilla

3760
02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:54,720
did i pronounce his name hector

3761
02:24:59,510 --> 02:24:55,600
quintanilla

3762
02:25:02,150 --> 02:24:59,520
who was project blue book spokesper

3763
02:25:04,630 --> 02:25:02,160
thank you yes and and uh and he sat on

3764
02:25:07,190 --> 02:25:04,640
he was going to use it in the dark

3765
02:25:09,349 --> 02:25:07,200
ufos past president future last minute

3766
02:25:10,630 --> 02:25:09,359
uh quintinia asked them not to

3767
02:25:12,309 --> 02:25:10,640
and so he said i said well what are you

3768
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:12,319
doing i've got it downstairs in my

3769
02:25:15,030 --> 02:25:12,880
basement

3770
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:15,040
i've got two i think it was 16

3771
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:16,640
millimeter film

3772
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:18,640
rolls one was at close range the other

3773
02:25:22,070 --> 02:25:20,160
one was longer range

3774
02:25:23,110 --> 02:25:22,080
and they both showed the same thing he

3775
02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:23,120
was going to sell it to me i think it

3776
02:25:26,469 --> 02:25:24,000
was like 20 000

3777
02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:26,479
bucks and then i got all the money lined

3778
02:25:29,270 --> 02:25:27,680
up and the guy that was putting up the

3779
02:25:31,590 --> 02:25:29,280
money at the time was like well

3780
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:31,600
can we see it first before we put the

3781
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:32,479
money

3782
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:34,240
and allen was like oh no no i definitely

3783
02:25:37,670 --> 02:25:36,000
want you know we'll put the money in an

3784
02:25:38,790 --> 02:25:37,680
escrow account you guys come up here

3785
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:38,800
i'll show you the footage if it's not

3786
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,000
everything i said it was uh

3787
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:42,160
was going to be then you walk away and

3788
02:25:45,429 --> 02:25:43,840
done deal but i had to get the money in

3789
02:25:46,150 --> 02:25:45,439
an escrow account i got it all lined up

3790
02:25:47,590 --> 02:25:46,160
to happen

3791
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,600
and then he pulled it out and he said

3792
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:49,200
well my lawyer says i'm doing really

3793
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:50,640
well i don't need the money what am i

3794
02:25:53,990 --> 02:25:52,000
doing taking chances

3795
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:54,000
revealing government you know secrets i

3796
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:55,120
could be in trouble

3797
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:56,640
i don't want anything to do with it i'm

3798
02:25:59,190 --> 02:25:57,920
not i said what are you going to die

3799
02:26:01,750 --> 02:25:59,200
with it in your basement

3800
02:26:03,190 --> 02:26:01,760
you know like seriously and then he was

3801
02:26:05,750 --> 02:26:03,200
like well i know where to find these

3802
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:05,760
these things you know this is these are

3803
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:07,439
the kind of things that people don't

3804
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:08,720
realize that never make it into the

3805
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:09,840
movie all the efforts

3806
02:26:12,870 --> 02:26:11,920
on the stuff that i didn't get you know

3807
02:26:15,110 --> 02:26:12,880
but that i know

3808
02:26:16,710 --> 02:26:15,120
probably exists and that's incredibly

3809
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:16,720
frustrating because

3810
02:26:20,389 --> 02:26:18,240
you know you look at it like a video of

3811
02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:20,399
a tic tac and it's like

3812
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:23,120
is it impressive yeah you know but when

3813
02:26:25,590 --> 02:26:23,439
you

3814
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:25,600
know that what else they've got yeah not

3815
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:27,200
really impressive

3816
02:26:33,750 --> 02:26:30,640
now um and going back to ufos past

3817
02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:33,760
present and future didn't

3818
02:26:37,590 --> 02:26:36,800
weren't they allowed to show they showed

3819
02:26:42,710 --> 02:26:37,600
a few

3820
02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:42,720
not the landing

3821
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,720
only it coming in well so yeah so i

3822
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:48,800
i addressed that with robert and robert

3823
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:50,319
swore up and down and so does allen

3824
02:26:54,389 --> 02:26:51,680
that's not the case

3825
02:26:55,270 --> 02:26:54,399
that it was all special effects ah

3826
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:55,280
that's

3827
02:26:58,710 --> 02:26:57,200
i know i know because i was like oh

3828
02:27:01,190 --> 02:26:58,720
there's a few seconds in there

3829
02:27:02,070 --> 02:27:01,200
not according to them there isn't well

3830
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:02,080
but that's what they

3831
02:27:06,389 --> 02:27:04,080
say the narrator in the film who

3832
02:27:08,389 --> 02:27:06,399
narrates the film

3833
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:08,399
oh it was that guy from twilight zone

3834
02:27:11,030 --> 02:27:10,160
twilight zone was rod serling yeah

3835
02:27:14,309 --> 02:27:11,040
that's right

3836
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:14,319
rod sterling thank you yep and uh okay

3837
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:16,960
well i i was going to go watch it again

3838
02:27:22,070 --> 02:27:18,720
tonight

3839
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:22,080
just for that few seconds but

3840
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:24,000
you have to remember that that film was

3841
02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:25,920
carefully combed through every single

3842
02:27:30,469 --> 02:27:27,520
word was carefully crafted

3843
02:27:31,510 --> 02:27:30,479
and approved by the military okay and

3844
02:27:34,070 --> 02:27:31,520
you listen

3845
02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:34,080
very carefully to that segment of the

3846
02:27:38,630 --> 02:27:35,120
film

3847
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:38,640
and they say this incident may occur

3848
02:27:44,630 --> 02:27:42,000
or may have already occurred right

3849
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:44,640
yes the way they say it it's really

3850
02:27:47,910 --> 02:27:46,000
interesting it's like okay

3851
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:47,920
there every word of that was carefully

3852
02:27:51,030 --> 02:27:49,439
crafted and approved

3853
02:27:53,510 --> 02:27:51,040
and if you listen the way they say that

3854
02:27:55,750 --> 02:27:53,520
it's like hmm

3855
02:27:57,429 --> 02:27:55,760
you know wow but you think like what's

3856
02:27:58,230 --> 02:27:57,439
the likelihood of the us government

3857
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:58,240
having

3858
02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:00,080
put then of course you've got all these

3859
02:28:02,150 --> 02:28:01,680
other stories that stemmed from that

3860
02:28:03,910 --> 02:28:02,160
like

3861
02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:03,920
you know eisenhower meeting with aliens

3862
02:28:06,309 --> 02:28:05,920
it's like when i talk about eisenhower

3863
02:28:08,230 --> 02:28:06,319
being

3864
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:08,240
aliens i personally would love to think

3865
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:10,240
that was true i have seen

3866
02:28:14,070 --> 02:28:13,040
zero evidence to back that statement up

3867
02:28:16,389 --> 02:28:14,080
but

3868
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:16,399
isn't it interesting that that story

3869
02:28:19,190 --> 02:28:17,439
comes out

3870
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:19,200
about eisenhower meeting with aliens

3871
02:28:21,429 --> 02:28:20,640
some at the base i think it was even

3872
02:28:23,910 --> 02:28:21,439
holloman

3873
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:23,920
to obfuscate the real story behind it

3874
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:25,600
and that was this lit this potential

3875
02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:26,399
landing case

3876
02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:28,880
that was filmed but let's just muddy the

3877
02:28:31,830 --> 02:28:29,760
waters

3878
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:31,840
and throw out some bat [\h__\h] crazy stuff

3879
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:34,399
with no evidence whatsoever

3880
02:28:37,830 --> 02:28:36,240
when i'm not saying i got a bunch of

3881
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:37,840
evidence to prove what i just said

3882
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:39,680
but i got a lot more than they got on

3883
02:28:44,150 --> 02:28:42,000
this eisenhower thing

3884
02:28:45,190 --> 02:28:44,160
now um before we get to your

3885
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:45,200
announcement

3886
02:28:48,230 --> 02:28:47,680
and uh we can keep going if you want

3887
02:28:51,510 --> 02:28:48,240
that i

3888
02:28:53,750 --> 02:28:51,520
i i well i i i would

3889
02:28:57,030 --> 02:28:53,760
i wouldn't mind getting back to the okay

3890
02:29:00,870 --> 02:28:59,670
you're on vacation man and and i oh yeah

3891
02:29:01,750 --> 02:29:00,880
but i got everybody waiting

3892
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:01,760
we're going to have a we're going to

3893
02:29:05,830 --> 02:29:04,240
have a shot of whiskey when i get back

3894
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:05,840
man that sounds so good you know what i

3895
02:29:10,790 --> 02:29:08,000
do have oh see normally i run

3896
02:29:11,830 --> 02:29:10,800
cameras uh between uh you and i tonight

3897
02:29:15,190 --> 02:29:11,840
we can't do that

3898
02:29:15,910 --> 02:29:15,200
but i do have uh some uh alien vodka i'm

3899
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:15,920
holding

3900
02:29:21,510 --> 02:29:19,520
uh up to the camera wow so you do that

3901
02:29:23,349 --> 02:29:21,520
i'll do i'll do the alien you do the

3902
02:29:26,790 --> 02:29:23,359
vodka i'll do the vodka

3903
02:29:30,309 --> 02:29:26,800
um uh is

3904
02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:30,319
the the virginia

3905
02:29:33,670 --> 02:29:33,359
is this a 2022 release are you and are

3906
02:29:37,110 --> 02:29:33,680
you

3907
02:29:40,389 --> 02:29:37,120
just full on into this right now

3908
02:29:42,309 --> 02:29:40,399
yeah so i was already into it and

3909
02:29:44,230 --> 02:29:42,319
uh i was going to feature some of it in

3910
02:29:45,990 --> 02:29:44,240
the phenomenon and i spent quite some

3911
02:29:47,429 --> 02:29:46,000
time putting it together

3912
02:29:48,950 --> 02:29:47,439
and then literally scrapped the whole

3913
02:29:50,070 --> 02:29:48,960
thing which was like heartbreaking

3914
02:29:51,990 --> 02:29:50,080
because

3915
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:52,000
you know i went to china twice i don't

3916
02:29:55,110 --> 02:29:54,080
think anything i had one one or two

3917
02:29:57,349 --> 02:29:55,120
statements in the

3918
02:29:58,950 --> 02:29:57,359
end credits from china i mean there was

3919
02:30:01,750 --> 02:29:58,960
so much material

3920
02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:01,760
so much stuff that didn't make it in i

3921
02:30:03,750 --> 02:30:03,439
mean the whole holloman air force base

3922
02:30:05,670 --> 02:30:03,760
stuff

3923
02:30:07,349 --> 02:30:05,680
do you think i wanted to cover that case

3924
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:07,359
after my extensive interview

3925
02:30:10,950 --> 02:30:09,040
i've got clips from paul shardle at

3926
02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:10,960
norton air force base i got audio

3927
02:30:14,870 --> 02:30:12,880
recordings of alan sandler i've got

3928
02:30:17,429 --> 02:30:14,880
extensive on-camera interviews with bob

3929
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:17,439
emeneger none of it made in the movie

3930
02:30:24,950 --> 02:30:22,160
um you know so uh

3931
02:30:25,830 --> 02:30:24,960
i was like i went to virginia three

3932
02:30:29,110 --> 02:30:25,840
times like

3933
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:29,120
i gotta so um yes to answer your

3934
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:30,160
question

3935
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:32,080
extensive work has already been done but

3936
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:33,840
i'm doing some follow-up

3937
02:30:36,870 --> 02:30:35,760
um interviews i'm going to be posted up

3938
02:30:39,990 --> 02:30:36,880
there for a month

3939
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:40,000
but i'm editing on the scene uh and then

3940
02:30:42,950 --> 02:30:40,720
we're all

3941
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:42,960
i'm going to be living in a barn in

3942
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:44,080
vermont

3943
02:30:50,309 --> 02:30:47,120
with uh with with four other people

3944
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:50,319
translators from brazil um

3945
02:30:55,990 --> 02:30:53,840
um music composition uh sound

3946
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:56,000
and and some other editors i'm an editor

3947
02:30:59,270 --> 02:30:56,880
myself but

3948
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:59,280
you know it's gonna be like 24 7 kind of

3949
02:31:02,309 --> 02:31:00,240
production

3950
02:31:03,429 --> 02:31:02,319
and so we're gonna we're we're we're

3951
02:31:06,950 --> 02:31:03,439
gonna turn this out

3952
02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:06,960
um in in in unprecedented timely fashion

3953
02:31:11,030 --> 02:31:07,680
so

3954
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:11,040
yes it's all hands on deck yeah you say

3955
02:31:14,230 --> 02:31:13,120
barn i don't think that there's cows and

3956
02:31:17,510 --> 02:31:14,240
chickens um

3957
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:17,520
in this barn in vermont well

3958
02:31:21,030 --> 02:31:19,439
they do have them up the road but at one

3959
02:31:24,309 --> 02:31:21,040
point mine had horses

3960
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:24,319
but not now no no not now not now okay

3961
02:31:30,309 --> 02:31:25,439
what would you

3962
02:31:31,990 --> 02:31:30,319
okay so i know that a lot of the

3963
02:31:34,870 --> 02:31:32,000
audience is not in

3964
02:31:36,630 --> 02:31:34,880
uh memphis tennessee but there was a

3965
02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:36,640
gentleman

3966
02:31:39,910 --> 02:31:38,640
who's been incredibly enthusiastic and

3967
02:31:44,389 --> 02:31:39,920
supportive his

3968
02:31:48,389 --> 02:31:44,399
his name is percy he goes by percy t

3969
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:48,399
uh and he has managed to

3970
02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:53,120
get malco theaters to premiere the film

3971
02:32:00,389 --> 02:31:57,520
in in memphis on july 28th

3972
02:32:01,429 --> 02:32:00,399
uh and august 3rd uh in in downtown

3973
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:01,439
memphis tennessee

3974
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:04,319
at 7 00 p.m so it's going to be you know

3975
02:32:08,469 --> 02:32:06,240
kind of a little red carpet

3976
02:32:10,469 --> 02:32:08,479
um premiere that the film's going to get

3977
02:32:10,870 --> 02:32:10,479
finally get to be featured in a theater

3978
02:32:13,349 --> 02:32:10,880
with

3979
02:32:14,469 --> 02:32:13,359
5.1 dolby surround mix it's going to be

3980
02:32:17,110 --> 02:32:14,479
a lot of fun

3981
02:32:17,670 --> 02:32:17,120
it's not a big you know it's more the

3982
02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:17,680
fact that

3983
02:32:21,750 --> 02:32:19,520
hey this film is going to be featured in

3984
02:32:23,750 --> 02:32:21,760
a theater so if anyone knows anyone in

3985
02:32:27,270 --> 02:32:23,760
memphis

3986
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:27,280
uh the dates are july 28

3987
02:32:31,510 --> 02:32:30,720
and august 3rd in memphis tennessee at 7

3988
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:31,520
pm

3989
02:32:37,349 --> 02:32:34,960
in malco theater m-a-l-c-o

3990
02:32:38,389 --> 02:32:37,359
theater so the film will be premiering

3991
02:32:41,990 --> 02:32:38,399
two nights

3992
02:32:44,150 --> 02:32:42,000
and that's next week that's next week

3993
02:32:45,110 --> 02:32:44,160
yep that's next week it's kind of it's

3994
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:45,120
kind of cool right

3995
02:32:49,349 --> 02:32:47,760
are you gonna be there i would be there

3996
02:32:49,910 --> 02:32:49,359
for one of them yes i just not sure

3997
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:49,920
which one

3998
02:32:56,230 --> 02:32:53,439
oh man i gotta work what day of the week

3999
02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:56,240
is the third

4000
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:59,359
um i want to say thursday but i i'd have

4001
02:33:02,389 --> 02:33:00,399
to look at my calendar

4002
02:33:03,990 --> 02:33:02,399
hold on i'm gonna look it up right now

4003
02:33:06,790 --> 02:33:04,000
um man should i fly

4004
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:06,800
out there for this let me see here let

4005
02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:07,600
me

4006
02:33:15,750 --> 02:33:11,760
let's uh let's uh pull out the calendar

4007
02:33:19,429 --> 02:33:15,760
june may july

4008
02:33:21,429 --> 02:33:19,439
august 3rd is a tuesday

4009
02:33:22,790 --> 02:33:21,439
okay yeah so the other ones i get i

4010
02:33:27,429 --> 02:33:22,800
guess the first is

4011
02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:27,439
the 28th of thursday 28th is a wednesday

4012
02:33:31,510 --> 02:33:28,960
okay so it's gonna be a wednesday and a

4013
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:31,520
tuesday i'm working both nights i would

4014
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:33,040
have flown out

4015
02:33:36,070 --> 02:33:35,120
i would have booked my tickets right now

4016
02:33:39,190 --> 02:33:36,080
you know what

4017
02:33:41,590 --> 02:33:39,200
there's also uh there's also a screening

4018
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:41,600
in california we had it all set up to be

4019
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:43,680
at the sonoma international film

4020
02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:45,600
festival which is quite a

4021
02:33:49,590 --> 02:33:48,640
quite a production and we were probably

4022
02:33:51,110 --> 02:33:49,600
a week away

4023
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:51,120
jacques was going to be there chris

4024
02:33:55,190 --> 02:33:52,720
mellon was flying in

4025
02:33:56,150 --> 02:33:55,200
a number of other people were flying out

4026
02:33:57,990 --> 02:33:56,160
to be there

4027
02:33:59,270 --> 02:33:58,000
and then kobe hadn't shut that down but

4028
02:34:01,990 --> 02:33:59,280
they're doing that

4029
02:34:02,469 --> 02:34:02,000
in august in sonoma at the sonoma film

4030
02:34:05,670 --> 02:34:02,479
festival

4031
02:34:07,270 --> 02:34:05,680
are you gonna fly out for that

4032
02:34:08,550 --> 02:34:07,280
i'm not gonna i will not build a flat

4033
02:34:09,590 --> 02:34:08,560
for that one because i'd have to get the

4034
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:09,600
date on that one but

4035
02:34:13,670 --> 02:34:11,280
uh yeah no i'm not gonna make it for

4036
02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:13,680
that one but but my point is is that

4037
02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:15,840
there are there's some level of interest

4038
02:34:19,349 --> 02:34:17,280
if it if it does well

4039
02:34:20,630 --> 02:34:19,359
if it's received well that there could

4040
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:20,640
be a limited

4041
02:34:24,070 --> 02:34:22,560
theatrical release of the film that

4042
02:34:26,389 --> 02:34:24,080
would make exceptions

4043
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:26,399
because of covid and that could be

4044
02:34:28,469 --> 02:34:28,160
exciting because that's been kind of my

4045
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,479
dream

4046
02:34:33,349 --> 02:34:30,160
yeah man i want to hang out with you on

4047
02:34:37,750 --> 02:34:35,590
yeah i mean we've only been planning it

4048
02:34:39,790 --> 02:34:37,760
for two friggin years

4049
02:34:41,910 --> 02:34:39,800
well well 27 for me so

4050
02:34:44,550 --> 02:34:41,920
[Laughter]

4051
02:34:46,630 --> 02:34:44,560
james all my best to your family tell

4052
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:46,640
ollie to take another selfie for the

4053
02:34:50,309 --> 02:34:48,080
world that was pretty epic

4054
02:34:51,429 --> 02:34:50,319
oh thank you that's really awesome i

4055
02:34:54,070 --> 02:34:51,439
know i like you

4056
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:54,080
i'm a stalker i follow that stuff so

4057
02:34:59,670 --> 02:34:58,469
always have a lot of fun in your show i

4058
02:35:01,590 --> 02:34:59,680
hope i didn't talk too much because

4059
02:35:03,990 --> 02:35:01,600
sometimes i do that

4060
02:35:05,030 --> 02:35:04,000
never never and and we don't do this

4061
02:35:08,150 --> 02:35:05,040
enough my friend

4062
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:08,160
so get back to work and uh i can't wait

4063
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:08,479
for

4064
02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:10,960
virginia i'm very excited about this

4065
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:12,240
it's such an extraordinary

4066
02:35:15,670 --> 02:35:14,160
case i know it's going to be a great

4067
02:35:17,590 --> 02:35:15,680
film we

4068
02:35:19,190 --> 02:35:17,600
have to wait but it's going to be great

4069
02:35:19,990 --> 02:35:19,200
in the meantime you've got a lot of work

4070
02:35:21,750 --> 02:35:20,000
to do

4071
02:35:23,750 --> 02:35:21,760
go hang out with the family go do that

4072
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:23,760
whiskey and we will talk soon thank you

4073
02:35:26,870 --> 02:35:25,200
so much james

4074
02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:26,880
thanks for having me on bye you're the

4075
02:35:32,790 --> 02:35:29,280
best james fox

4076
02:35:35,030 --> 02:35:32,800
just took his ufo victory lap

4077
02:35:36,710 --> 02:35:35,040
so well deserved thank you so much james

4078
02:35:38,630 --> 02:35:36,720
and i am going to take a quick

4079
02:35:40,550 --> 02:35:38,640
break and i'll come back and open up the

4080
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:40,560
phone lines and hang out with all of you

4081
02:35:44,309 --> 02:35:42,160
thank you so much james have a good

4082
02:35:47,030 --> 02:35:44,319
night and say hello to

4083
02:35:49,030 --> 02:35:47,040
everybody and i will be right back after

4084
02:35:55,700 --> 02:35:49,040
this short break this is fade to black

4085
02:36:10,230 --> 02:35:55,710
i'm yours jimmy church stay with us

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02:36:12,550 --> 02:36:10,240
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4154
02:39:47,429 --> 02:39:45,429
all right welcome back fade to black i

4155
02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:47,439
am your host jimmy church

4156
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:49,410
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4157
02:39:54,150 --> 02:39:51,200
[Music]

4158
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,160
two two eight two zero five one what a

4159
02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:56,160
great conversation with james fox

4160
02:40:03,030 --> 02:39:59,840
and i i there there's one thing

4161
02:40:04,070 --> 02:40:03,040
that i can say uh about james which is

4162
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:04,080
this

4163
02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:07,840
he has dedicated his life

4164
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:10,960
to pursuing the answers

4165
02:40:15,429 --> 02:40:14,160
um when it when it comes to ufos and e.t

4166
02:40:17,110 --> 02:40:15,439
contact and

4167
02:40:18,790 --> 02:40:17,120
certainly what the government knows but

4168
02:40:20,389 --> 02:40:18,800
what the world knows and what is really

4169
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:20,399
going on out there

4170
02:40:26,790 --> 02:40:23,439
and his his films all three

4171
02:40:29,910 --> 02:40:26,800
um are extraordinary but

4172
02:40:32,830 --> 02:40:29,920
talking to him um and

4173
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:32,840
and and what he knows and how he has

4174
02:40:38,710 --> 02:40:34,000
pursued

4175
02:40:41,349 --> 02:40:38,720
um all of this it's it's just

4176
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:41,359
nothing but respect i've got nothing but

4177
02:40:45,590 --> 02:40:42,160
respect

4178
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:45,600
uh for james fox and uh man i would love

4179
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:46,960
to walk the red carpet

4180
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:50,000
we were so close and uh

4181
02:40:56,309 --> 02:40:53,279
and it was so funny uh the

4182
02:40:58,230 --> 02:40:56,319
uh as the film got finished

4183
02:40:59,349 --> 02:40:58,240
and and i was watching it and all the

4184
02:41:02,389 --> 02:40:59,359
prep behind it

4185
02:41:04,870 --> 02:41:02,399
and and the theatrical release and the

4186
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:04,880
red carpet and how excited and

4187
02:41:08,309 --> 02:41:07,439
oh man i'm telling you i bought a new

4188
02:41:11,349 --> 02:41:08,319
suit

4189
02:41:14,830 --> 02:41:11,359
and and every and to have

4190
02:41:16,070 --> 02:41:14,840
uh the pandemic roll in and throw the

4191
02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:16,080
kibosh

4192
02:41:23,190 --> 02:41:20,000
on on all of it um and it's not that

4193
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:23,200
i mean the film released and and a huge

4194
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:25,040
success and all of that

4195
02:41:30,070 --> 02:41:28,560
but it's what he deserved you know he

4196
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:30,080
deserved that red carpet

4197
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:33,120
the theatrical release and and

4198
02:41:38,950 --> 02:41:36,800
and ah man i mean the pandemic came

4199
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:38,960
along and and stopped a lot of things

4200
02:41:44,389 --> 02:41:39,760
around the world

4201
02:41:46,870 --> 02:41:44,399
certainly um and and wow what timing

4202
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:46,880
uh but i i do i want to walk the red

4203
02:41:50,950 --> 02:41:48,640
carpet with james

4204
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:50,960
and uh well hopefully uh we'll get

4205
02:41:57,030 --> 02:41:52,560
something else lined up

4206
02:41:58,389 --> 02:41:57,040
but um uh going back to um

4207
02:42:00,950 --> 02:41:58,399
eight two zero a 747-2282 if you're on

4208
02:42:04,230 --> 02:42:00,960
hold stay right there um

4209
02:42:06,710 --> 02:42:04,240
uh ufos uh past present and future

4210
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:06,720
i wanna go back and and visit uh that

4211
02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:09,120
part of the conversation for a second

4212
02:42:17,190 --> 02:42:13,680
the uh i had read

4213
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:17,200
uh bob's book about uh

4214
02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:21,680
the uh uh the chase of this film

4215
02:42:28,630 --> 02:42:26,080
and and what uh the chase of making the

4216
02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:28,640
film ufos past present and future

4217
02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:31,920
that this was part of there was uh

4218
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:34,240
uh james and i didn't get into this this

4219
02:42:37,190 --> 02:42:36,399
part of ufo history so let me share this

4220
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:37,200
with you

4221
02:42:43,990 --> 02:42:40,720
there was a whole thing that was

4222
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:44,000
tied in uh behind the release of this

4223
02:42:48,550 --> 02:42:44,960
film

4224
02:42:52,070 --> 02:42:48,560
which was disclosure um that was

4225
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:52,080
uh uh directed by the white house

4226
02:42:59,269 --> 02:42:56,160
and there were going to be themed events

4227
02:43:02,630 --> 02:42:59,279
across the country um

4228
02:43:07,349 --> 02:43:02,640
uh uh displays

4229
02:43:10,550 --> 02:43:07,359
the this huge et disclosure

4230
02:43:13,990 --> 02:43:10,560
that this huge i'm talking like

4231
02:43:17,990 --> 02:43:14,000
think like theme parks right this huge

4232
02:43:21,990 --> 02:43:18,000
um rollout of disclosure and

4233
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:22,000
and what bob ebeneger was told

4234
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:25,600
this film would represent so

4235
02:43:29,269 --> 02:43:26,800
that he had the full support of the

4236
02:43:31,510 --> 02:43:29,279
white house that uh

4237
02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:31,520
all military bases were open the

4238
02:43:36,790 --> 02:43:33,120
pentagon

4239
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,800
was behind them and he literally

4240
02:43:41,110 --> 02:43:39,200
had carte blanche and anything and

4241
02:43:41,910 --> 02:43:41,120
everything was going to be available to

4242
02:43:44,550 --> 02:43:41,920
him

4243
02:43:45,910 --> 02:43:44,560
and he could interview anybody and that

4244
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:45,920
the pentagon doors were

4245
02:43:50,230 --> 02:43:47,680
wide open to him all of this was

4246
02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:50,240
presented in the film in this fashion

4247
02:43:57,590 --> 02:43:54,960
um but the centerpiece of this film

4248
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:57,600
was going to be this holloman air force

4249
02:44:02,830 --> 02:43:58,720
base

4250
02:44:06,309 --> 02:44:02,840
ufo landing and that was

4251
02:44:09,990 --> 02:44:06,319
again uh uh a promise to bob

4252
02:44:13,030 --> 02:44:10,000
emeneger and he centered the

4253
02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:13,040
film around this and

4254
02:44:19,670 --> 02:44:16,960
again this entire country-wide

4255
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:19,680
uh government-supported rollout of

4256
02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:20,720
disclosure

4257
02:44:25,510 --> 02:44:24,399
and ets and that that was ufo's past

4258
02:44:29,349 --> 02:44:25,520
present and future

4259
02:44:32,710 --> 02:44:29,359
this was a big big deal

4260
02:44:34,870 --> 02:44:32,720
and it didn't happen

4261
02:44:37,030 --> 02:44:34,880
the film was made and you can go and

4262
02:44:38,230 --> 02:44:37,040
watch it ufos past present and future

4263
02:44:40,469 --> 02:44:38,240
you can go and watch it and

4264
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:40,479
it is an extraordinary documentary and

4265
02:44:50,389 --> 02:44:42,080
rod sterling

4266
02:44:52,870 --> 02:44:50,399
the holloman air force base landing

4267
02:44:55,030 --> 02:44:52,880
obviously did make it into the film at

4268
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:55,040
the end of the film like james

4269
02:45:02,870 --> 02:44:59,600
presents it here there is

4270
02:45:04,790 --> 02:45:02,880
what is told in the film that a few

4271
02:45:07,030 --> 02:45:04,800
seconds of this ufo landing

4272
02:45:09,030 --> 02:45:07,040
is is here in the film they show it got

4273
02:45:13,910 --> 02:45:09,040
a blue sky you've got this

4274
02:45:16,950 --> 02:45:13,920
uh disc uh it's not it's it's more of a

4275
02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:19,750
okay i don't think my memory doesn't say

4276
02:45:23,429 --> 02:45:21,680
anything metallic it's just like this

4277
02:45:25,990 --> 02:45:23,439
and they only it's only there for a few

4278
02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:26,000
seconds and james is right rod sterling

4279
02:45:28,710 --> 02:45:26,880
says this

4280
02:45:30,630 --> 02:45:28,720
what we're about to show you may have

4281
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:30,640
already happened or may happen in the

4282
02:45:35,269 --> 02:45:31,520
future

4283
02:45:38,389 --> 02:45:35,279
like this weird statement around

4284
02:45:41,429 --> 02:45:38,399
these few seconds in the film

4285
02:45:42,230 --> 02:45:41,439
now if it wasn't the real footage and i

4286
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:42,240
guess now bob

4287
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:45,040
emeneger says that it wasn't i think

4288
02:45:48,950 --> 02:45:46,080
that

4289
02:45:50,389 --> 02:45:48,960
it was always purported to be the actual

4290
02:45:51,910 --> 02:45:50,399
footage of the film and that was all

4291
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:51,920
they were allowed to

4292
02:45:55,510 --> 02:45:55,200
present in the documentary um but if it

4293
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:55,520
was

4294
02:45:59,750 --> 02:45:57,680
fake why not just show a landing why not

4295
02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:59,760
have the whole recreation why not do

4296
02:46:02,150 --> 02:46:00,240
that

4297
02:46:04,389 --> 02:46:02,160
they only show those few seconds of the

4298
02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:04,399
film and then they also speak about

4299
02:46:11,429 --> 02:46:07,840
uh what had happened um but that

4300
02:46:15,429 --> 02:46:11,439
this this part of ufo history going back

4301
02:46:18,710 --> 02:46:15,439
uh to the early 70s uh 72 to 74

4302
02:46:21,990 --> 02:46:18,720
and what bob emeneger went through

4303
02:46:25,830 --> 02:46:22,000
and alan sandler to uh

4304
02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:25,840
to make this film happen it was crazy

4305
02:46:29,150 --> 02:46:28,800
and they were going from base to base

4306
02:46:39,190 --> 02:46:29,160
and

4307
02:46:41,429 --> 02:46:39,200
always

4308
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:41,439
one step behind one step behind now it

4309
02:46:45,110 --> 02:46:43,520
turns out that alan sandler

4310
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,120
which i didn't know i didn't know that

4311
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:47,279
allen had actually seen the film i

4312
02:46:52,150 --> 02:46:48,160
thought that bob

4313
02:46:54,070 --> 02:46:52,160
ebeneger um had uh seen the film

4314
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:54,080
but uh it turns out it wasn't bob it was

4315
02:46:59,110 --> 02:46:56,640
alan and

4316
02:47:00,150 --> 02:46:59,120
very interesting description and you

4317
02:47:02,389 --> 02:47:00,160
heard it from james

4318
02:47:03,510 --> 02:47:02,399
james heard it from allen directly and

4319
02:47:06,630 --> 02:47:03,520
his description of

4320
02:47:07,510 --> 02:47:06,640
of of what had happened um very

4321
02:47:10,950 --> 02:47:07,520
interesting and

4322
02:47:12,550 --> 02:47:10,960
for alan to say in the end um

4323
02:47:14,070 --> 02:47:12,560
and i'm hearing this for the first time

4324
02:47:16,150 --> 02:47:14,080
tonight with all of you

4325
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:16,160
for him to say it may have been special

4326
02:47:19,590 --> 02:47:17,200
effects

4327
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:19,600
or maybe it was a real flying saucer but

4328
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:20,720
it was ours

4329
02:47:27,429 --> 02:47:24,399
that's even more more interesting

4330
02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:27,439
um his description of

4331
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:29,600
the leader like you know two camera i'm

4332
02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:31,279
picturing mars attacks right

4333
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:34,560
but two two two beings come down stand

4334
02:47:38,870 --> 02:47:36,080
on both sides of the stairs

4335
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:38,880
and then the leader comes down wearing

4336
02:47:42,790 --> 02:47:39,520
uh this

4337
02:47:45,110 --> 02:47:42,800
outfit holding what

4338
02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:45,120
seemed like a communication device and

4339
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:48,000
that's where alan stopped and said it's

4340
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:49,840
at that point he's thinking special

4341
02:47:52,790 --> 02:47:51,520
effects i'm gonna have to go back and

4342
02:47:55,670 --> 02:47:52,800
listen to

4343
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:55,680
uh james's uh description uh his

4344
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:56,800
recollection

4345
02:48:01,030 --> 02:47:59,680
of his conversation with um alan stanler

4346
02:48:03,670 --> 02:48:01,040
alan sandler

4347
02:48:05,269 --> 02:48:03,680
so wow okay seven four seven two two

4348
02:48:06,790 --> 02:48:05,279
eight two zero five one i've got calls

4349
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:06,800
on hold let's see who's up first things

4350
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:07,520
come down oh

4351
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:10,640
man hold on hold on hold on sorry about

4352
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:11,040
that

4353
02:48:14,950 --> 02:48:13,840
i have got something going live here

4354
02:48:17,030 --> 02:48:14,960
that's my fault

4355
02:48:19,110 --> 02:48:17,040
okay hi you're live i'm fade to black

4356
02:48:20,790 --> 02:48:19,120
sorry you're listening to the show and

4357
02:48:23,030 --> 02:48:20,800
delay

4358
02:48:24,230 --> 02:48:23,040
yeah what's up my name is christian i'm

4359
02:48:26,230 --> 02:48:24,240
from washington state

4360
02:48:28,870 --> 02:48:26,240
and i have an important question to ask

4361
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:28,880
you kind of ish

4362
02:48:35,429 --> 02:48:32,080
sure awesome i asked richard dolan

4363
02:48:37,510 --> 02:48:35,439
and um grant cameron about um

4364
02:48:39,910 --> 02:48:37,520
they've heard about nato special forces

4365
02:48:42,070 --> 02:48:39,920
ufo recovery squads and they

4366
02:48:44,389 --> 02:48:42,080
were kind of they didn't they have never

4367
02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:44,399
heard of it but why i ask is because

4368
02:48:48,790 --> 02:48:47,040
louis elizondo actually um referenced

4369
02:48:49,990 --> 02:48:48,800
that he's like hmm i wonder what nato

4370
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:50,000
has seen over the years

4371
02:48:53,670 --> 02:48:51,600
so i'm wondering if you have ever heard

4372
02:48:56,070 --> 02:48:53,680
anything about that

4373
02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:56,080
how did lou come into this did lou

4374
02:49:00,070 --> 02:48:58,000
reference this

4375
02:49:01,349 --> 02:49:00,080
so so i heard this a long time ago i

4376
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:01,359
don't know if you've ever heard of a guy

4377
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:01,920
named

4378
02:49:05,269 --> 02:49:03,840
um can't think of his name right now but

4379
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:05,279
um

4380
02:49:09,590 --> 02:49:07,040
this this is all from this is all from

4381
02:49:11,429 --> 02:49:09,600
an old older video it's a

4382
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:11,439
rich rich planet i believe his name is

4383
02:49:14,309 --> 02:49:12,800
have you ever heard of a guy named rich

4384
02:49:17,510 --> 02:49:14,319
clinton i

4385
02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:17,520
you're talking about uh

4386
02:49:21,830 --> 02:49:18,960
uh i'm trying to think of his last name

4387
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:21,840
from the united kingdom and his

4388
02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:25,040
channel was rich planet it's um

4389
02:49:31,269 --> 02:49:28,160
oh man yeah yeah yeah we know each other

4390
02:49:31,750 --> 02:49:31,279
um i'm trying to go but but that guy is

4391
02:49:35,429 --> 02:49:31,760
really

4392
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:35,439
right yeah

4393
02:49:39,190 --> 02:49:37,200
i'm beyond flabbergasted by all the

4394
02:49:41,510 --> 02:49:39,200
content yet but yes he's referenced

4395
02:49:43,830 --> 02:49:41,520
um he had a specific video about the

4396
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:43,840
human mutilation cases that

4397
02:49:47,510 --> 02:49:45,359
these special forces guys would always

4398
02:49:50,630 --> 02:49:47,520
run into when they have to recover

4399
02:49:51,510 --> 02:49:50,640
recover alien craft and i'm aware of the

4400
02:49:54,150 --> 02:49:51,520
department of energy

4401
02:49:55,510 --> 02:49:54,160
also doing the same thing um they also

4402
02:49:58,150 --> 02:49:55,520
have their you know recovery

4403
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:58,160
squads scientists and all that stuff so

4404
02:50:00,710 --> 02:49:59,600
i was just wondering i wanted i've been

4405
02:50:02,230 --> 02:50:00,720
trying really hard to

4406
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:02,240
get lou to answer this question because

4407
02:50:04,950 --> 02:50:04,080
he's the one that referenced it and also

4408
02:50:08,309 --> 02:50:04,960
referenced with

4409
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:08,319
brazil which i'm guessing like the human

4410
02:50:12,550 --> 02:50:09,760
mutilation case that took place over

4411
02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:12,560
there yeah and uh hang on for one second

4412
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:14,640
let me do this and then i'm gonna be

4413
02:50:20,070 --> 02:50:18,160
right back to you i have to uh uh

4414
02:50:22,550 --> 02:50:20,080
do something really quick with my

4415
02:50:26,150 --> 02:50:22,560
computer which i'm doing now

4416
02:50:29,830 --> 02:50:26,160
um you are actually uh

4417
02:50:33,030 --> 02:50:29,840
talking about uh richard richard d

4418
02:50:36,230 --> 02:50:33,040
hall that's his name richard d hall

4419
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:36,240
and another thing that he he talked

4420
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:37,439
about a lot

4421
02:50:41,590 --> 02:50:40,319
which doesn't get discussed a lot but

4422
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:41,600
richard d hall did

4423
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:45,359
a a lot of research into human

4424
02:50:50,550 --> 02:50:49,600
mutilations not cattle mutilations right

4425
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:50,560
and that

4426
02:50:56,150 --> 02:50:53,840
that caused some controversy for him

4427
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:56,160
uh over the years and i think it even

4428
02:50:59,429 --> 02:50:56,960
got him

4429
02:51:00,870 --> 02:50:59,439
uh censored and maybe even some of his

4430
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:00,880
material pulled down it was pretty

4431
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:02,800
controversial he hasn't posted this for

4432
02:51:05,030 --> 02:51:03,600
a year now

4433
02:51:07,670 --> 02:51:05,040
since last year you know i thought they

4434
02:51:10,150 --> 02:51:07,680
might have got him yeah yeah yeah yeah

4435
02:51:12,469 --> 02:51:10,160
uh great researcher great i think he

4436
02:51:16,389 --> 02:51:12,479
lives here in the united states now

4437
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:16,399
um but anyway so a

4438
02:51:20,469 --> 02:51:20,080
rich planet which is his uh ufo channel

4439
02:51:23,830 --> 02:51:20,479
or

4440
02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:23,840
ufo channel youtube channel

4441
02:51:27,670 --> 02:51:26,640
um and also the name of his website uh i

4442
02:51:31,030 --> 02:51:27,680
don't know if it's still

4443
02:51:34,309 --> 02:51:31,040
up um it is i was on it a few days ago

4444
02:51:36,950 --> 02:51:34,319
okay all right um he's uh

4445
02:51:37,670 --> 02:51:36,960
he's tenacious man he's really good i've

4446
02:51:40,309 --> 02:51:37,680
i've

4447
02:51:41,510 --> 02:51:40,319
followed him a lot over the years and

4448
02:51:45,190 --> 02:51:41,520
his content

4449
02:51:45,590 --> 02:51:45,200
was riveting he did not play around it

4450
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:45,600
was

4451
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:47,920
it it is dude it's crazy i'm surprised

4452
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:48,640
that more people

4453
02:51:51,910 --> 02:51:50,640
don't like don't know about him yeah

4454
02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:51,920
it's like what

4455
02:51:57,910 --> 02:51:55,120
yeah yeah absolutely so he would know

4456
02:51:59,030 --> 02:51:57,920
about that because he's an international

4457
02:52:01,110 --> 02:51:59,040
researcher

4458
02:52:03,510 --> 02:52:01,120
and he was based in the united kingdom

4459
02:52:04,950 --> 02:52:03,520
uh you know for his entire career so if

4460
02:52:07,990 --> 02:52:04,960
somebody would know

4461
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:08,000
about nato recovery teams it would be

4462
02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:11,120
uh richard d hall um i don't know

4463
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:12,240
i'm guessing we will have done this

4464
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:13,840
since he's doing that he's the one that

4465
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:15,439
even made me just start to question it

4466
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:17,200
because i put it off at first but after

4467
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:18,560
luke said something about it

4468
02:52:21,590 --> 02:52:19,760
and then said some more or less about

4469
02:52:23,590 --> 02:52:21,600
the human mutilation a few minutes after

4470
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:23,600
i'm like okay does this dude watch

4471
02:52:26,630 --> 02:52:25,359
the same type of content or like what's

4472
02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:26,640
going on yeah

4473
02:52:30,630 --> 02:52:29,200
and thank you thank you for bringing uh

4474
02:52:31,349 --> 02:52:30,640
bringing this up christian i think

4475
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:31,359
that's very

4476
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:34,640
interesting and certainly uh twitter and

4477
02:52:40,230 --> 02:52:36,800
the fader knots are going to uh

4478
02:52:41,190 --> 02:52:40,240
jump on this too as well um i can reach

4479
02:52:43,590 --> 02:52:41,200
out to uh

4480
02:52:44,550 --> 02:52:43,600
uh richard d hall i have direct contacts

4481
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:44,560
with him

4482
02:52:48,630 --> 02:52:47,200
and uh he's somebody i've always wanted

4483
02:52:51,110 --> 02:52:48,640
on the show

4484
02:52:51,990 --> 02:52:51,120
and yeah i mean that was sick yeah yeah

4485
02:52:54,389 --> 02:52:52,000
it'd be great

4486
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:54,399
and he's always had you know some weird

4487
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:56,080
things going on and we could never put

4488
02:52:59,670 --> 02:52:57,200
it together

4489
02:53:01,590 --> 02:52:59,680
but uh now that you've mentioned it i'm

4490
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:01,600
writing it down here in my notes

4491
02:53:07,349 --> 02:53:05,120
i'll uh i'll reach out to richard and

4492
02:53:09,510 --> 02:53:07,359
and uh see what we can do about that

4493
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,520
thank you so much christian

4494
02:53:13,910 --> 02:53:11,520
can i ask you one more thing which will

4495
02:53:16,309 --> 02:53:13,920
real quick sure

4496
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:16,319
okay so i was watching a linda montale

4497
02:53:19,349 --> 02:53:18,000
video while back and she had a

4498
02:53:21,750 --> 02:53:19,359
interview with this guy who was a part

4499
02:53:23,030 --> 02:53:21,760
of the army in hawaii and he said that

4500
02:53:25,269 --> 02:53:23,040
the older brass

4501
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:25,279
you know always talks about the ufos and

4502
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,800
everything that but the young guys know

4503
02:53:29,910 --> 02:53:28,240
not to talk about it

4504
02:53:31,269 --> 02:53:29,920
but he said he overheard that the the

4505
02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:31,279
when the older guys were talking that

4506
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:32,080
you know

4507
02:53:34,950 --> 02:53:33,520
these things have been under living

4508
02:53:36,150 --> 02:53:34,960
underground or whatever they just kind

4509
02:53:38,550 --> 02:53:36,160
of leave us alone

4510
02:53:40,309 --> 02:53:38,560
they've seen three generations or treat

4511
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:40,319
you know they've experienced

4512
02:53:43,110 --> 02:53:42,000
human life i guess three times or

4513
02:53:44,230 --> 02:53:43,120
whatever like they've been here ever

4514
02:53:46,309 --> 02:53:44,240
since

4515
02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:46,319
and that they are they're also the ones

4516
02:53:49,190 --> 02:53:48,080
who are um you know flying around in the

4517
02:53:50,710 --> 02:53:49,200
black helicopters

4518
02:53:52,550 --> 02:53:50,720
so and are the ones that are always

4519
02:53:54,389 --> 02:53:52,560
chasing down ufos

4520
02:53:55,830 --> 02:53:54,399
as in the aliens are so i'm like on my

4521
02:53:57,910 --> 02:53:55,840
mind am i okay so is this a

4522
02:53:59,510 --> 02:53:57,920
is there a third party that is trying to

4523
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:59,520
like come on to our curve or something

4524
02:54:02,309 --> 02:53:59,920
and they're

4525
02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:02,319
just trying to defend our turf or like

4526
02:54:07,590 --> 02:54:04,319
what

4527
02:54:10,150 --> 02:54:07,600
all great questions you know and and

4528
02:54:11,750 --> 02:54:10,160
this is this is what uh this is what i

4529
02:54:13,429 --> 02:54:11,760
think and i've got to to get some more

4530
02:54:14,309 --> 02:54:13,439
calls in the next couple of minutes

4531
02:54:17,510 --> 02:54:14,319
christian

4532
02:54:19,670 --> 02:54:17,520
but i i really feel that

4533
02:54:21,670 --> 02:54:19,680
these conversations that have happened

4534
02:54:24,550 --> 02:54:21,680
over the years and linda certainly

4535
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:24,560
um has covered a lot of this that i

4536
02:54:29,349 --> 02:54:25,120
think

4537
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:29,359
we are at this this turning point

4538
02:54:33,590 --> 02:54:32,000
where some of this stuff is going to

4539
02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:33,600
start to come out

4540
02:54:36,870 --> 02:54:35,520
and some of the more sensational things

4541
02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:36,880
that have been talked about over the

4542
02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:38,080
years whether it's

4543
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:41,120
ufo bases in the ocean or things under

4544
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,840
the ground or direct contact

4545
02:54:47,429 --> 02:54:45,600
uh with the military and some of these

4546
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:47,439
statements that have been made

4547
02:54:51,750 --> 02:54:50,080
what if something starts to break out

4548
02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:51,760
you know and i'm talking about like phil

4549
02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:53,760
schneider for instance

4550
02:55:00,070 --> 02:54:57,680
and oh yeah yeah who knows who knows

4551
02:55:01,269 --> 02:55:00,080
i feel bad for that guy i believe him

4552
02:55:03,590 --> 02:55:01,279
200

4553
02:55:04,630 --> 02:55:03,600
yeah yeah yeah i know phil schneider was

4554
02:55:06,070 --> 02:55:04,640
great christian

4555
02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:06,080
enjoy your night and we'll see you

4556
02:55:10,230 --> 02:55:09,040
tomorrow night right here with ron keel

4557
02:55:11,750 --> 02:55:10,240
perfect thank you so much man have a

4558
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:11,760
good one you too christian that's a

4559
02:55:17,190 --> 02:55:13,439
great phone call right there

4560
02:55:19,830 --> 02:55:17,200
richard d hall freaked me

4561
02:55:20,550 --> 02:55:19,840
out he freaked out a lot of people but

4562
02:55:23,590 --> 02:55:20,560
he was

4563
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:23,600
willing to chase

4564
02:55:28,630 --> 02:55:27,200
the evidence and and i remember him

4565
02:55:30,070 --> 02:55:28,640
saying you know this is this is going to

4566
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:30,080
be rough for some people

4567
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:33,760
to listen to but this is where

4568
02:55:38,630 --> 02:55:36,160
the road is leading me right now richard

4569
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:38,640
d hall incredible rich planet

4570
02:55:43,030 --> 02:55:41,439
uh just an incredible video production

4571
02:55:45,349 --> 02:55:43,040
that he did over the years

4572
02:55:48,070 --> 02:55:45,359
oh man one more call hi you're live i'm

4573
02:55:50,230 --> 02:55:48,080
fade to black who's calling

4574
02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:50,240
hey jimmy your buddy plan b from new

4575
02:55:55,910 --> 02:55:51,840
york how you doing plan b

4576
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:55,920
what's cracking uh nothing much just

4577
02:55:59,830 --> 02:55:58,240
uh enjoying the show figured i'd give

4578
02:56:00,550 --> 02:55:59,840
you a call check in at the end of the

4579
02:56:02,630 --> 02:56:00,560
show

4580
02:56:03,990 --> 02:56:02,640
well uh you're calling me so what's on

4581
02:56:07,510 --> 02:56:04,000
your mind we got like uh

4582
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:07,520
one maybe two minutes well did i

4583
02:56:11,030 --> 02:56:08,960
i don't know well good because i want to

4584
02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:11,040
get a little recap on that story

4585
02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:12,560
james fox was talking about about the

4586
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:14,560
emmenaeger video and

4587
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:17,520
was he's trying to say that that it was

4588
02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:18,319
some sort of

4589
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:21,520
alien tech landing at the air force base

4590
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:23,920
and people in costumes were were

4591
02:56:26,790 --> 02:56:24,640
emerging i

4592
02:56:27,670 --> 02:56:26,800
was getting a little confused well see

4593
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:27,680
now that's what

4594
02:56:32,389 --> 02:56:30,960
alan sandler said but alan sandler

4595
02:56:34,309 --> 02:56:32,399
sounds like he said two things that the

4596
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:34,319
landing was real

4597
02:56:40,550 --> 02:56:37,359
um it was a real flying saucer

4598
02:56:41,349 --> 02:56:40,560
um but he felt that maybe we were flying

4599
02:56:44,950 --> 02:56:41,359
it

4600
02:56:46,550 --> 02:56:44,960
and maybe the aliens

4601
02:56:48,070 --> 02:56:46,560
you know that came down the stairs might

4602
02:56:51,510 --> 02:56:48,080
have been actors

4603
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:51,520
and i've and yes so you didn't hear that

4604
02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:53,040
incorrectly

4605
02:57:00,150 --> 02:56:56,800
um this seems so strange well but this

4606
02:57:03,190 --> 02:57:00,160
film it has been talked about now

4607
02:57:04,790 --> 02:57:03,200
for in my memory i've heard about it for

4608
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:04,800
40 years

4609
02:57:10,230 --> 02:57:08,560
and oh yeah and this film of the landing

4610
02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:10,240
at holloman air force base and the

4611
02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:12,080
beings coming down and

4612
02:57:17,269 --> 02:57:15,439
and meeting with military personnel

4613
02:57:18,550 --> 02:57:17,279
um and that's what you've got to go

4614
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:18,560
watch if you haven't seen this

4615
02:57:22,469 --> 02:57:20,240
documentary ufos past

4616
02:57:23,269 --> 02:57:22,479
pet present and future you've got to go

4617
02:57:26,469 --> 02:57:23,279
and watch it

4618
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:26,479
it is yeah i've seen it yeah then it's

4619
02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:28,560
the story around it and how the white

4620
02:57:31,910 --> 02:57:30,640
house was involved and the pentagon and

4621
02:57:33,990 --> 02:57:31,920
the military and

4622
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:34,000
this whole roll out of disclosure that

4623
02:57:39,429 --> 02:57:36,720
was going to happen in 1974

4624
02:57:41,750 --> 02:57:39,439
and bob emeneger you know chasing this

4625
02:57:45,110 --> 02:57:41,760
film down and trying to get to it

4626
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:45,120
it's an extraordinary uh piece of ufo

4627
02:57:49,190 --> 02:57:46,560
history and that's why that

4628
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:49,200
when you watch that uh documentary why

4629
02:57:51,590 --> 02:57:50,080
that documentary

4630
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:51,600
is so important you need to know the

4631
02:57:56,790 --> 02:57:54,160
back story uh with a bob

4632
02:57:57,670 --> 02:57:56,800
emeneger and alan sandler it's it's an

4633
02:58:03,670 --> 02:57:57,680
incredible

4634
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:03,680
yeah i mean i've heard all the rumors

4635
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:05,040
and legends about the

4636
02:58:09,030 --> 02:58:06,960
you know the backstory about that that

4637
02:58:11,030 --> 02:58:09,040
uh documentary but then when he

4638
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:11,040
mentioned the the part about the guys

4639
02:58:15,670 --> 02:58:13,840
emerging with the costumes that was like

4640
02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:15,680
that blew my mind i was like what the

4641
02:58:19,750 --> 02:58:17,120
heck is going on here yeah

4642
02:58:20,950 --> 02:58:19,760
yeah and uh i i've got to roll credits

4643
02:58:22,870 --> 02:58:20,960
and get out of here plan b

4644
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:22,880
but you're absolutely right i mean the

4645
02:58:27,910 --> 02:58:24,880
story behind it

4646
02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:27,920
um uh not only the film

4647
02:58:34,469 --> 02:58:31,200
uh and that this film uh existed

4648
02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:34,479
but to actually have alan sandler to

4649
02:58:38,230 --> 02:58:34,960
have

4650
02:58:40,870 --> 02:58:38,240
seen it and describe to james fox

4651
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:40,880
exactly what he had seen so thank you so

4652
02:58:44,950 --> 02:58:42,319
much for the phone call

4653
02:58:46,070 --> 02:58:44,960
plan b and uh we will see you tomorrow

4654
02:58:47,830 --> 02:58:46,080
night right here

4655
02:58:49,750 --> 02:58:47,840
and i want to remind everybody what's

4656
02:58:53,190 --> 02:58:49,760
going on tomorrow night it's pretty cool

4657
02:58:56,309 --> 02:58:53,200
ron keel is going to be with us

4658
02:58:59,510 --> 02:58:56,319
ron keel of course uh the lead singer

4659
02:59:02,550 --> 02:58:59,520
of keel and steeler and and the

4660
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:02,560
ron keel band he's going to be with me

4661
02:59:06,710 --> 02:59:04,160
all night tomorrow night manning the

4662
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:06,720
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4663
02:59:10,070 --> 02:59:08,560
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4664
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:10,080
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4665
02:59:14,870 --> 02:59:13,279
with ron keel and now i've got to get

4666
02:59:17,269 --> 02:59:14,880
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02:59:18,070 --> 02:59:17,279
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4684
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:52,080
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4685
02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:55,120
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